Re: Updates to Understanding 1.4.11

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> ...except where the appearance of the component is determined by the user
agent and not modified by the author.

Hmmm... this might be open to being interpreted as *"If you do not specify
the visible tab focus, and leave it to the native 'styling' provided by the
browser, then black dotted lines around a component situated on a dark
background is exempted/acceptable"  *...which is not what we are saying
(right?)

How about:

"...except where the appearance of the component is determined by the user
agent and *can *not *be* modified by the author."

JF


On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>
wrote:

> Thanks for looking at this everyone.  Comments within:
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> "With the exception of inactive components or where the appearance of the
> component (including it's focus indicator) is determined by the user agent
> (and not modified by the author), the visual focus indicator for a
> component must always provide sufficient contrast against the adjacent
> background when the component is focused.​"​
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> How about:
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> The visual focus indicator for a component must have sufficient contrast
> against the adjacent background when the component is focused, except where
> the appearance of the component is determined by the user agent and not
> modified by the author.
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> I don’t think that we need to mention inactive components since inactive
> components don’t take focus.
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> AWK
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> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 6:26 AM, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
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> I agree
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> I put comment inline... Just one thing.
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> p>In all cases, the visual focus indicator for a component must have
> sufficient contrast against the adjacent background when the component is
> focused.</p>
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> ​the SC text has exceptions to "all cases" except for inactive components
> or where the appearance of the component is determined by the user agent
> and not modified by the author;
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> How about this?
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> ​"​
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> In all cases, except for inactive components or where the appearance of
> the component (including it's focus indicator) is determined by the user
> agent and not modified by the author; the visual focus indicator for a
> component must have sufficient contrast against the adjacent background
> when the component is focused.
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> ​"​
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> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 10:39 PM, Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>
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> AGWG’ers,
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> I’ve reviewed the 1.4.11 Understanding document and think that this is a
> solid start: https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/pull/943/files?utf8=
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> I expect that we will want to include additional examples and
> explanations, but think that these changes are aligned with how 1.4.11
> reads now.
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> Thoughts?
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> Thanks,
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> AWK
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