- From: Michael Gower <michael.gower@ca.ibm.com>
- Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 16:34:12 +0000
- To: Katie Haritos-Shea <katie.haritos-shea@deque.com>
- Cc: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>, "Bailey, Bruce" <bailey@access-board.gov>, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>, Kathy Wahlbin <kathy@interactiveaccessibility.com>, Katie Haritos-Shea <ryladog@gmail.com>, Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
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We could spend time trying to dream up some phrase to convey the sense of 'anything to do with a multiplicity of input methods', for example Input Plurality or Input Modalities. But I believe we risk not only more time we don't have, but the phrase being so abstract that it will lack the quality of being immediately understandable. We also have the added challenge of conveying that it stands in counterpoint to the Keyboard Accessible requirement. To me, the simplest way to do this is to keep the Guideline name clear and broad, then add that qualification in the short description. With that in mind, I'm thinking this combination achieves that, and can be considered 'good enough' to proceed, along with AWK's other changes, which seem to have traction. Together, they represent a definite improvement over the last editor's draft. Input Methods Make it easier for users to operate functionality through various inputs beyond keyboard I prefer that over the slightly wordier Make it easier for users to operate functionality through various inputs in addition to keyboard Michael Gower IBM Accessibility Research 1803 Douglas Street, Victoria, BC V8T 5C3 gowerm@ca.ibm.com voice: (250) 220-1146 * cel: (250) 661-0098 * fax: (250) 220-8034 From: Katie Haritos-Shea <katie.haritos-shea@deque.com> To: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca> Cc: Michael Gower <michael.gower@ca.ibm.com>, Katie Haritos-Shea <ryladog@gmail.com>, Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>, "Bailey, Bruce" <bailey@access-board.gov>, Kathy Wahlbin <kathy@interactiveaccessibility.com>, Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> Date: 2018-04-11 08:26 AM Subject: Re: WCAG 2.1 Guideline Suggested Changes please no 'Other' or 'Additional' in a Guideline name. It does not identify what it is. On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 11:22 AM, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca> wrote: I think in general they are all improvements. I suggest Andrew's edits. I would prefer renaming "Input Methods" something like "Other Input Methods" as 2.1 keyboard already is an input method... I just saw Laura's "Input's beyond keyboard" Which is OK with me... I like the idea of new Guidelines because they we don't have to stack new AA after existing AAA in an existing Guideline as much. Cheers, David MacDonald CanAdapt Solutions Inc. Mobile: 613.806.9005 LinkedIn twitter.com/davidmacd GitHub www.Can-Adapt.com Adapting the web to all users Including those with disabilities If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 12:07 AM, Michael Gower <michael.gower@ca.ibm.com> wrote: I am open to group for location of Label in Name. +1 Same here. It's an odd duck. I can also live with your other changes, AWK. I maintain that Character Key Shortcuts is about keyboard access, and I think anyone authoring or testing pages is going to be assisted by it being located under 2.1. Most testers are not going to load up Dragon to test it; they're going to confirm by keyboard. But if putting it in Input Methods is what it takes to get the structure in better shape, I'm game. Michael Gower IBM Accessibility Research 1803 Douglas Street, Victoria, BC V8T 5C3 gowerm@ca.ibm.com voice: (250) 220-1146 * cel: (250) 661-0098 * fax: (250) 220-8034 From: Katie Haritos-Shea <ryladog@gmail.com> To: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com> Cc: Michael Gower <michael.gower@ca.ibm.com>, "Bailey, Bruce" < bailey@access-board.gov>, Kathy Wahlbin < kathy@interactiveaccessibility.com>, Katie Haritos-Shea < katie.haritos-shea@deque.com>, Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>, WCAG < w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> Date: 2018-04-10 08:42 PM Subject: Re: WCAG 2.1 Guideline Suggested Changes Thanks for putting SCs in A order, Andrew. I like your change to Input Type description text. I am open to group for location of Label in Name. On Tue, Apr 10, 2018, 11:09 PM Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com> wrote: I’ve tried to simplify this by removing the guidelines that are not affected from the columns after the first one, where the full structure is shown. I can live with the change to “Input Methods” and suggest a small addition to Mike’s suggested wording for the GL text (“Make it easier for users to operate functionality using different input types.” [or “a variety of” instead of different]). I think that the change to move Orientation to Adaptable makes sense. I also like having a simple structure like Mike’s, but I think what is simplest is to move all of the remaining SC in the Operable Principal to 2.5 Input Methods. I don’t agree with moving Character Key shortcuts to Keyboard, as tempting as it is, because it is primarily about enabling speech navigation, and since speech is a different input type I think it helps round out the new 2.5. I could live with it in the Keyboard guideline but think that it is going to be misleading. I don’t think that I can live with Label in Name in 4.1 however. I don’t think that it is about exposing information in ways that assistive technologies can recognize and interact with, it is about authoring the labels in a way that supports users using speech navigation, so I think that it also fits into the 2.5 Input Methods. Current in Editor’s Draft AWK suggestions Katie email Mike Gower email 1. Perceivable 1.1 Text Alternatives 1.1.1 Non-text Content 1.2 Time-based Media 1.2.1 Audio-only and Video-only (Prerecorded) 1.2.2 Captions (Prerecorded) 1.2.3 Audio Description or Media Alternative (Prerecorded) 1.2.4 Captions (Live) 1.2.5 Audio Description (Prerecorded) 1.2.6 Sign Language (Prerecorded) 1.2.7 Extended Audio Description (Prerecorded) 1.2.8 Media Alternative (Prerecorded) 1.2.9 Audio-only (Live) 1.3 Adaptable 1.3.1 Info and Relationships 1.3.2 Meaningful Sequence 1.3.3 Sensory Characteristics 1.3.4 Identify Common Purpose (#755 changes “common” to “input”) 1.3.5 Identify Purpose 1.4 Distinguishable 1.4.1 Use of Color 1.4.2 Audio Control 1.4.3 Contrast (Minimum) 1.4.4 Resize text 1.4.5 Images of Text 1.4.6 Contrast (Enhanced) 1.4.7 Low or No Background Audio 1.4.8 Visual Presentation 1.4.9 Images of Text (No Exception) 1.4.10 Reflow 1.4.11 Non-text Contrast 1.4.12 Text Spacing 1.4.13 Content on Hover or Focus 1. Perceivable 1.3 Adaptable 1.3.1 Info and Relationships 1.3.2 Meaningful Sequence 1.3.3 Sensory Characteristics 1.3.4 Orientation (was 2.6.2) 1.3.5 Identify Input Purpose 1.3.6 Identify Purpose 1. Perceivable 1.3 Adaptable 1.3.1 Info and Relationships 1.3.2 Meaningful Sequence 1.3.3 Sensory Characteristics 1.3.4 Identify Input Purpose 1.3.5 Identify Purpose 1.4 Distinguishable 1.4.1 Use of Color 1.4.2 Audio Control 1.4.3 Contrast (Minimum) 1.4.4 Resize text 1.4.5 Images of Text 1.4.6 Contrast (Enhanced) 1.4.7 Low or No Background Audio 1.4.8 Visual Presentation 1.4.9 Images of Text (No Exception) 1.4.10 Reflow 1.4.11 Non-text Contrast 1.4.12 Text Spacing 1.4.13 Content on Hover or Focus 1. Perceivable 1.3 Adaptable 1.3.1 Info and Relationships 1.3.2 Meaningful Sequence 1.3.3 Sensory Characteristics 1.3.4 Identify Input Purpose 1.3.5 Identify Purpose 1.3.6 Orientation (was 2.6.2) 2. Operable 2.1 Keyboard Accessible 2.1.1 Keyboard 2.1.2 No Keyboard Trap 2.1.3 Keyboard (No Exception) 2.2 Enough Time 2.2.1 Timing Adjustable 2.2.2 Pause, Stop, Hide 2.2.3 No Timing 2.2.4 Interruptions 2.2.5 Re-authenticating 2.2.6 Timeouts 2.3 Seizures and Physical Reactions 2.3.1 Three Flashes or Below Threshold 2.3.2 Three Flashes 2.3.3 Animation from Interactions 2.4 Navigable 2.4.1 Bypass Blocks 2.4.2 Page Titled 2.4.3 Focus Order 2.4.4 Link Purpose (In Context) 2.4.5 Multiple Ways 2.4.6 Headings and Labels 2.4.7 Focus Visible 2.4.8 Location 2.4.9 Link Purpose (Link Only) 2.4.10 Section Headings 2.4.11 Character Key Shortcuts 2.4.12 Label in Name 2.5 Pointer Accessible 2.5.1 Pointer Gestures 2.5.2 Pointer Cancellation 2.5.3 Target Size 2.5.4 Concurrent Input Mechanisms 2.6 Additional sensor inputs 2.6.1 Motion Actuation 2.6.2 Orientation 2. Operable 2.5 Input Methods 2.5.1 Pointer Gestures 2.5.2 Pointer Cancellation 2.5.3 Character Key Shortcuts (was 2.4.11) 2.5.4 Label in Name (was 2.4.12) 2.5.5 Target Size 2.5.6 Concurrent Input Mechanisms 2.5.7 Motion Actuation (was 2.6.1) Input Methods description: Make it easier for users to operate functionality using different input types. 2. Operable 2.5 Pointer Accessible 2.5.1 Pointer Gestures 2.5.2 Pointer Cancellation 2.5.3 Target Size 2.6 Speech Input 2.6.1 Character Key Shortcuts (was 2.4.11) 2.6.2 Label in Name (was 2.4.12) 2.7 Input Methods 2.7.1 Concurrent Input Mechanisms (was 2.5.4) 2.7.2 Motion Actuation (was 2.6.1) 2.8 Device Settings 2.8.1 Orientation (was 2.6.2) 2. Operable 2.1 Keyboard Accessible 2.1.1 Keyboard 2.1.2 No Keyboard Trap 2.1.3 Keyboard (No Exception) 2.1.4 Character Key Shortcuts (was 2.4.11) 2.5 Input Methods 2.5.1 Pointer Gestures 2.5.2 Pointer Cancellation 2.5.3 Target Size 2.5.4 Concurrent Input Mechanisms 2.5.5 Motion Actuation (was 2.6.1) 3. Understandable 3.1 Readable 3.1.1 Language of Page 3.1.2 Language of Parts 3.1.3 Unusual Words 3.1.4 Abbreviations 3.1.5 Reading Level 3.1.6 Pronunciation 3.2 Predictable 3.2.1 On Focus 3.2.2 On Input 3.2.3 Consistent Navigation 3.2.4 Consistent Identification 3.2.5 Change on Request 3.3 Input Assistance 3.3.1 Error Identification 3.3.2 Labels or Instructions 3.3.3 Error Suggestion 3.3.4 Error Prevention (Legal, Financial, Data) 3.3.5 Help 3.3.6 Error Prevention (All) 4. Robust 4.1 Compatible 4.1.1 Parsing 4.1.2 Name, Role, Value 4.1.3 Status Messages 4. Robust 4.1 Compatible 4.1.1 Parsing 4.1.2 Name, Role, Value 4.1.3 Status Messages 4.1.4 Label in Name (was 2.4.12) -- * katie * Katie Haritos-Shea Principal ICT Accessibility Architect (WCAG 2/Section 508/ADA/AODA/QA/FinServ/FinTech/Privacy) IAAP CPACC+WAS = CPWA Deque | Cell: 703-371-5545 | Katie.Haritos-Shea@Deque.com | Herndon, VA | LinkedIn Profile Deque | 2121 Cooperative Way | Suite 210 | Herndon, VA | 20171-5344 | Office: 703-225-0380
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