RE: wording for the introduction

+1 J

 

From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca> 
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 9:29 AM
To: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>
Cc: Chuck Adams <charles.adams@oracle.com>; lisa.seeman <lisa.seeman@zoho.com>; W3c-Wai-Gl-Request@W3. Org <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Subject: Re: wording for the introduction

 

Here's my suggestion riffing off of Charles amendment to the earlier text that several of us worked up.

 

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On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 10:20 PM, Andrew Kirkpatrick <HYPERLINK "mailto:akirkpat@adobe.com"akirkpat@adobe.com> wrote:

Lisa,

Can you share what paragraphs you intend for these paragraphs to replace or add to?

 

If this is in the abstract, I’m concerned that we need to make sure that the topic is appropriately covered in the main body of the document. That is where the message needs to exist in its complete form as the abstract is a hyper-condensed version of the whole.

 

Thanks,

AWK

 

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Adobe 

 

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From: Chuck Adams <HYPERLINK "mailto:charles.adams@oracle.com"charles.adams@oracle.com> on behalf of Chuck Adams <HYPERLINK "mailto:charles.adams@oracle.com"charles.adams@oracle.com>
Date: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 17:07
To: "HYPERLINK "mailto:lisa.seeman@zoho.com"lisa.seeman@zoho.com" <HYPERLINK "mailto:lisa.seeman@zoho.com"lisa.seeman@zoho.com>, WCAG <HYPERLINK "mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org"w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Subject: RE: wording for the introduction
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Resent-Date: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 17:05

 

Hi Lisa,

 

I’ve taken a crack at re-wording the last paragraph.  I don’t wish to draw anything out, and I do not object to your wording (I formally agree with your wording).  But if time permits for suggestions and alternatives:

 

Although these guidelines cover many important issues, they cannot address the needs of every individual and every type, degree, and combination of disabilities.  Significant challenges remain in addressing internationalization, cognitive, language and learning disabilities while ensuring that success criteria are consistently testable and implementable across all web pages.  Work will continue in this area as technologies mature in the marketplace.  We encourage authors to refer to our supplemental guidance on improving the user experience for people with learning and cognitive disabilities at: HYPERLINK "https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttp-253A-252F-252Fw3.org-252Fwiki-252FXXX-26data-3D02-257C01-257Cakirkpat-2540adobe.com-257Cac6cf538ff7f4f79985408d5695e22ce-257C71f1da39c0a84d5a8d88a67b23c30bf4-257C0-257C0-257C636530775399673763-26sdata-3DGrYZL2lasjnVpdrjIo1f5C-252BFdUGhCrTZ31xWRlcFk1k-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DRoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE%26r%3Db-9TIC95K-nLEKIDibNXAN_FKV-iXhLlAW2Zc3ebV_c%26m%3DudwLMGrHfXokP0t9lzjTNJVTc9M9W2evJ6y9sDmJIyQ%26s%3DQ0wrPvpCnUG8vWGyW7ePUlxtJim_WamYm79e9viGI2g%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7C913766202ce44eff740d08d59f2703cb%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636589912276815437&sdata=k06%2BJX2iAnp0Xhri8DgG8tdGdb3mEeHBUD3yPHA46jc%3D&reserved=0"w3.org/XXX

 

Thanks,

Charles Adams

 

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Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 11:33 AM
To: W3c-Wai-Gl-Request@W3. Org <HYPERLINK "mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org"w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Subject: wording for the introduction

 

I think this was the wording based on what was close to consensus from the back discussions

 

Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) 2.1 covers a wide range of implementation recommendations serving a diverse range of people with disabilities. Following these guidelines will make Web content more accessible and results in improved access to an increasingly larger group of people using the web independently.

 

Disabilities include impairments related to blindness and low vision, deafness and hearing loss, limited movement, photosensitivity, cognitive, language and learning disabilities, and combinations of these. The guidelines also makes Web content more usable for ageing related impairment, short or long-term changing abilities, usage in different circumstances and devices, and often improve usability in general. 

 

Although these guidelines cover many important issues, they do not claim to address the needs of people with all types, degrees, and combinations of disabilities. Particularly, in the areas of cognitive, language and learning disabilities, trying to address issues of consistent  test-ability, implement-ability across all web pages, and internationalisation continue to present a major challenge. Work will continue in this area as technologies mature in the marketplace. We encourage authors to consider our supplemental guidance on improving the user experience for people with learning and cognitive disabilities at: HYPERLINK "https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttp-253A-252F-252Fw3.org-252Fwiki-252FXXX-26data-3D02-257C01-257Cakirkpat-2540adobe.com-257Cac6cf538ff7f4f79985408d5695e22ce-257C71f1da39c0a84d5a8d88a67b23c30bf4-257C0-257C0-257C636530775399673763-26sdata-3DGrYZL2lasjnVpdrjIo1f5C-252BFdUGhCrTZ31xWRlcFk1k-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DRoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE%26r%3Db-9TIC95K-nLEKIDibNXAN_FKV-iXhLlAW2Zc3ebV_c%26m%3DudwLMGrHfXokP0t9lzjTNJVTc9M9W2evJ6y9sDmJIyQ%26s%3DQ0wrPvpCnUG8vWGyW7ePUlxtJim_WamYm79e9viGI2g%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7C913766202ce44eff740d08d59f2703cb%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636589912276815437&sdata=k06%2BJX2iAnp0Xhri8DgG8tdGdb3mEeHBUD3yPHA46jc%3D&reserved=0"w3.org/XXX

 

 

Note that there were issues with this wording but I think this got the most close to agreement  (I made some changes added the italicized terms)

 

 

 

All the best

Lisa Seeman

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