Re: timeouts

​Hi Andrew,

The *once* qualifier was added to ensure that users aren't bombarded with
multiple warnings while working on a complex form.

The net practical effect is that users will most likely need to be warned
while logging into an authenticated session that a time-out mechanism
exists *prior* to entering that work-flow, as opposed to the current *SC 2.2.1
Timing Adjustable: (Extend)* which states

*​​*

*The user is warned before time expires and given at least 20 seconds to
extend the time limit with a simple action (for example, "press the space
bar"), and the user is allowed to extend the time limit at least ten times*


​...​
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​here-as this SC is asking for the advisory before you are even logged in.​
Often times these "extend" warnings are not seen by users, as they may have
already stepped away from their computer/web browser, and upon return what
they were working on is lost, as they didn't see the "extend" warning, and
got kicked out.

JF

On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 9:33 AM, Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>
wrote:

> For context, at TPAC the language that was nearly agreed to was:
>
> Where data can be lost due to user inactivity, users are warned about the
> estimated length of inactivity that generates the data loss unless the data
> is preserved for a minimum of 20 hours of user inactivity.
>
>
>
> Lisa is proposing:
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> Where data can be lost due to user inactivity, users are warned @@once,
> before an activity timer is set,@@ about the estimated length of
> inactivity  that generates the data loss, unless the data is preserved for
> a minimum of 20 hours of user inactivity.
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>
>
> So, the main change is the addition of “once, before an activity timer is
> set”. I think that we need to acknowledge that the amount of time before
> the timer is set may be measured in milliseconds, but it is at least ahead
> of time. I’m less sure about the “once” part but can live with it.
>
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> Thanks,
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> AWK
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> Andrew Kirkpatrick
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> Group Product Manager, Accessibility
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> Adobe
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> *From: *Mike Elledge <melledge@yahoo.com>
> *Reply-To: *Mike Elledge <melledge@yahoo.com>
> *Date: *Friday, December 1, 2017 at 09:37
> *To: *WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> *Cc: *"lisa.seeman@zoho.com" <lisa.seeman@zoho.com>
> *Subject: *Re: timeouts
> *Resent-From: *WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> *Resent-Date: *Friday, December 1, 2017 at 09:36
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> +1
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> On Friday, December 1, 2017 8:47 AM, John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com>
> wrote:
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> +1
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> JF
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> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 10:00 AM, lisa.seeman <lisa.seeman@zoho.com>
> wrote:
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> The coga task force can live with the following wording for time outs
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>
>
>  Where data can be lost due to user inactivity, users are warned once, before an activity timer is set, about the estimated length of inactivity  that generates the data loss, unless the data is preserved for a minimum of 20 hours of user inactivity.
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> however we do object to the  change the hours from 20 to 24 , but we would
> rather it goes in with that change then be left out.
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> All the best
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> Lisa Seeman
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