- From: Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@levelaccess.com>
- Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2017 13:59:39 +0000
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* Content can be zoomed to an equivalent width of 320 CSS pixels without loss of content or functionality, and without requiring both horizontal and vertical scrolling. This has come up many times and the answer is no. This wording allows for a horizontally scrolling page that doesn’t have vertical scrolling. For horizonal languages like English this would still allow for scrolling in the direction of the text. Jonathan Jonathan Avila Chief Accessibility Officer Level Access, inc. (formerly SSB BART Group, inc.) (703) 637-8957 Jon.avila@levelaccess.com<mailto:Jon.avila@levelaccess.com> Visit us online: Website<http://www.ssbbartgroup.com/> | Twitter<https://twitter.com/SSBBARTGroup> | Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/ssbbartgroup> | LinkedIn<https://www.linkedin.com/company/355266?trk=tyah> | Blog<http://www.ssbbartgroup.com/blog/> Looking to boost your accessibility knowledge? Check out our free webinars!<http://www.ssbbartgroup.com/webinars/> The information contained in this transmission may be attorney privileged and/or confidential information intended for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. From: Michael Gower [mailto:michael.gower@ca.ibm.com] Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 9:50 AM To: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca> Cc: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>; White, Jason J <jjwhite@ets.org>; WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> Subject: Re: Interaction of "zoom content" and vertical writing modes Can we cover it this way? Content can be zoomed to an equivalent width of 320 CSS pixels without loss of content or functionality, and without requiring both horizontal and vertical scrolling. Michael Gower IBM Accessibility Research 1803 Douglas Street, Victoria, BC V8T 5C3 gowerm@ca.ibm.com<mailto:gowerm@ca.ibm.com> voice: (250) 220-1146 * cel: (250) 661-0098 * fax: (250) 220-8034 From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca<mailto:david100@sympatico.ca>> To: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com<mailto:acampbell@nomensa.com>> Cc: "White, Jason J" <jjwhite@ets.org<mailto:jjwhite@ets.org>>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>> Date: 2017-11-22 04:55 PM Subject: Re: Interaction of "zoom content" and vertical writing modes ________________________________ I'd rather not add the vertical part... it's speculative, and comes at a high cognitive load cost, unless someone brilliantly word smith's it. Cheers, David MacDonald CanAdapt Solutions Inc. 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AC: Well, I said it was possible but the browser support is not there yet, and we don’t know when that might work. Where there is vertical text at the moment, it is on pages with vertical scrolling. Given that, I’d rather not complicate it. Just trying makes my head hurt, you end up with something like this: For pages that scroll vertically by default, content can be zoomed to an equivalent width of 320 CSS pixels without loss of content or functionality, and without requiring horizontal scrolling. For pages that scroll horizontally by default, content can be zoomed to an equivalent height of 320 CSS pixels without loss of content or functionality, and without requiring vertical scrolling. Except for parts of the content which require two-dimensional layout for usage or meaning. -Alastair
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