- From: Patrick H. Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk>
- Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 14:38:19 +0100
- To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
On 18/10/2017 14:27, Repsher, Stephen J wrote: > But title doesn't show on focus for mouse users (except on IE/Edge with > recent windows) so the text is not available to most keyboard users. > However, in this example it is not a problem as the title element is not > really providing any content which is useful. > > */[Steve] Following that logic through to technology independence, that > means you feel a custom tooltip using the onmouseover event only is okay > in some situations? Does that not contradict F54? /* I believe James' sentence was a mistype - I think he meant "But title doesn't show on focus for keyboard users" (as indeed IE/Edge do show native title tooltips when an element receives keyboard focus). So the follow-up question is redundant. > > If I had provided a useful title in this example then it would be a > failure except if I could get to that information easily in another way. > So again - if content only appears on hover - it is not always a > failure. It is not a failure if that information is either useless or > easily available in another way for keyboard users. > > */[Steve] But if I follow the letter of the law in 2.1.1, there is no > such exception. It seems we must decide either the display of hover > content is part of the functionality or it isn’t. If you argue it isn’t > then I suppose the question falls to 1.3.1, but again there’s no > exception for useless or repetitive information./* 2.1.1 talks about " All functionality of the content is operable through a keyboard interface ....", where "functionality" is defined as "processes and outcomes achievable through user action" https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#functiondef The outcome of the hover functionality is to present the user with content. If that content is also available elsewhere, then the page still fulfills the purpose/outcome of presenting the user with said content. P -- Patrick H. Lauke www.splintered.co.uk | https://github.com/patrickhlauke http://flickr.com/photos/redux/ | http://redux.deviantart.com twitter: @patrick_h_lauke | skype: patrick_h_lauke
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