- From: Detlev Fischer <detlev.fischer@testkreis.de>
- Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 16:01:25 +0200 (CEST)
- To: david@can-adapt.com, acampbell@nomensa.com, team-wcag-editors@w3.org, cooper@w3.org
- Cc: wilco.fiers@deque.com, w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
+1 to Michael. I had a look at the mockup and I fear an ID: 1.4(21)2 is not easy to understand let alone speak. How would you refer to that? "One point four open brackets twenty-one close bracket two"? That is an abomination. Then, the logic is also hard to grasp. First, there is 1.4.1(20) and then 1.4(21)2 ? That completely throws me. I'd rather have simple consecutive three digit numbering for the new SCs (till Silver). Detlev -- Detlev Fischer testkreis c/o feld.wald.wiese Thedestr. 2, 22767 Hamburg Mobil +49 (0)157 57 57 57 45 Fax +49 (0)40 439 10 68-5 http://www.testkreis.de Beratung, Tests und Schulungen für barrierefreie Websites Michael Cooper schrieb am 20.09.2017 15:41: On 20/09/2017 9:10 AM, David MacDonald wrote: >> >> If we do that I think should start referring to the numbers as ID#s. Its a change in layout because WCAG 2 used the numbers as "Outline" mode to order them. The new layout would be changing that "ID" mode as unique identifiers but not the common way of referring to them by lay people. I'm OK with that change but I think we should articulate it. > We should not refer to numbers as IDs. Numbers are a terribly brittle way to ID something, and we have much better IDs already in the spec. In WCAG 2.0 the ID for SC 1.1.1 is "text-equiv-all"; in WCAG 2.1 we base the ID on the SC title so it's "non-text-content". In both cases there is a lot of infrastructure built around those IDs, and no infrastructure built around the numbers. > > I know I'm going to lose the debate on numbers, where my position is that they are meaningless and we should number things as appropriate to *this* spec, but we should not attempt to solve concerns with numbers by declaring them as IDs when they are not and we already have better, more stable IDs. > > Michael
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