RE: CFC - Device Sensors

While updating 2.1.1 *seems* like a good idea, I have to caution against changing any 2.0 SC in a dot release. Documentation and tools worldwide will need to be updated as opposed to just adding a new requirement.

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From: Joshue O Connor [mailto:josh@interaccess.ie] 
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 9:58 AM
To: White, Jason J <jjwhite@ets.org>
Cc: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>; Patrick H. Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk>; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Subject: Re: CFC - Device Sensors

 

White, Jason J wrote:



I share David’s concerns. I think that not filtering the list of SCs more effectively at this stage is just postponing the hard decisions and creating a lot of work for us as we move toward Candidate Recommendation.

That is something we want to avoid. If I'm reading this all correctly, I'm keen on your idea of an exception to 2.1.1 that covers sensors - or at least some of the current use cases (thanks Kim).

My problem/reservation with that is the approach is an implicit way of dealing with these use cases and not a more 'visible' SC that is future proof when it comes to more 'sensor aware' technologies. Hence my bringing this whole thing up again.

I'm quite torn on this one tbh.

Thanks

Josh



 

From: David MacDonald [mailto:david100@sympatico.ca] 
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 9:35 AM
To: Joshue O Connor  <mailto:josh@interaccess.ie> <josh@interaccess.ie>; Patrick H. Lauke  <mailto:redux@splintered.co.uk> <redux@splintered.co.uk>; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org <mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> 
Subject: Re: CFC - Device Sensors

 

I had objected to the SC on survey... citing redundancy with 2.1.1

 

However, I reluctantly provided consensus. I still hold to that. However my big concern is that we only have a couple of months the vet 23 success criteria and put them in the shape that is ready for a formal consideration. We also have to write techniques and the understanding  sections. There are several success criteria I didn't have strong consensus and I am concerned about the amount of bandwidth they will take up once we get into the thick of finalization. 

 

 So my hope is that this concern will be respected and that we will not lose too much bandwidth on the success criteria that we let pass-through. If so I would strongly object proceeding with this one. 

 

On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 7:55 AM Joshue O Connor <josh@interaccess.ie <mailto:josh@interaccess.ie> > wrote:

Thanks Patrick, yes, I'd be happy to see that. Do others agree to this approach? 

 

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From: "Patrick H. Lauke" <redux@splintered.co.uk <mailto:redux@splintered.co.uk> > 

Date: 26/08/2017 12:27 (GMT+00:00) 

To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org <mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>  

Subject: Re: CFC - Device Sensors 

 

On 26/08/2017 10:44, Joshue O Connor wrote:
[...]
> So, I'm concerned that if we do not now get wider review we risk 
> throwing the baby out with the bathwater. I'm actually not comfortable 
> taking the opportunity for wider review when what seems like an 
> interesting/progressive SC is on the table.

Any chance of adding a prominent editorial note in the draft pointing 
out that the exact wording is under review due to potential scope issues?

P
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