RE: New requirement for conforming alternate versions

Thanks for explicitly looping me in on this Michael.  CAV is an issue near and dear to my heart.  I commented in github too, but I actually do not agree with this addition since I actually think it is a feature that CAV need not be labeled as such.  OTOH, the idea merits debate.


From: Michael Gower [mailto:michael.gower@ca.ibm.com]
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 10:11 AM
To: White, Jason J <jjwhite@ets.org>
Cc: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>; Repsher, Stephen J <stephen.j.repsher@boeing.com>; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Subject: RE: New requirement for conforming alternate versions

We considered this same situation when addressing the new Authoring Tool template requirements in Revised 508. I think some guidance on labelling and location is appropriate, and this seems pretty solid.

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From:        "White, Jason J" <jjwhite@ets.org<mailto:jjwhite@ets.org>>
To:        David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca<mailto:david100@sympatico.ca>>, "Repsher, Stephen J" <stephen.j.repsher@boeing.com<mailto:stephen.j.repsher@boeing.com>>
Cc:        "w3c-wai-gl@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>>
Date:        2017-08-03 07:28 AM
Subject:        RE: New requirement for conforming alternate versions
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On a quick review, it appears well written and carefully specified to me, with desirable additions to the existing definition.

From: David MacDonald [mailto:david100@sympatico.ca]
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 10:21 AM
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Cc: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Subject: Re: New requirement for conforming alternate versions

I support the addition for WCAG 2.1

Cheers,
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On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Repsher, Stephen J <stephen.j.repsher@boeing.com<mailto:stephen.j.repsher@boeing.com>> wrote:
Currently, The requirements for a conforming alternate version are laid out in the glossary definition.  However, there are two big things missing from these requirements in my opinion:

1.      There’s no requirement to actually label a link to a conforming alternate as such, and thus how would the user know?

2.      There’s no requirement to tell the user what is altered so they can judge whether they need such a version.

I filed this a few weeks ago on GitHub and hoping to get some more quick feedback: https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/306<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fwcag21%2Fissues%2F306&data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7Cdadefbea13cc403611c908d4da7b0f27%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636373669448458991&sdata=RRL1NMHwAQS75ib%2FhIoVOeZuH8xnkoN3Dr1ODvUJgFk%3D&reserved=0>

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