- From: John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com>
- Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 08:57:55 -0500
- To: EA Draffan <ead@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
- Cc: "lisa.seeman" <lisa.seeman@zoho.com>, "W3c-Wai-Gl-Request@W3. Org" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>, public-cognitive-a11y-tf <public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAKdCpxwOf0KwUyUC9UfT7MzWbiWPq-fgO=PP8Ta5JTfr71=PkA@mail.gmail.com>
Hi, I unfortunately do not have the cycles to further contribute to this this week, but I would caution on the use of "penalizing" anyone/anything. That is neither the spirit nor language of WCAG, which should take a positive tone and provide guidance and instruction towards specific outcomes. Perhaps something like: "... or the content is mandated to follow a specific writing style, such as... JF On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 3:33 AM, EA Draffan <ead@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote: > Thank you for letting us know Lisa and on rereading I have to admit that > the exemption sentence makes me feel that the one would be penalized if the > writing does not conform to a particular style for specific types of > content > > > > "… or content will be penalized for not conforming to a given writing > style such as a game, a literary work, teaching new terms, a CV, > dissertation, or Ph.D. proposal." > > Was it meant to be > > "… or content will not be penalized for conforming to a given writing > style such as a game, a literary work, teaching new terms, a CV, > dissertation, or Ph.D. proposal." > > > > Best wishes > > E.A. > > > > Mrs E.A. Draffan > > WAIS, ECS , University of Southampton > > Mobile +44 (0)7976 289103 <+44%207976%20289103> > > http://access.ecs.soton.ac.uk > <https://www.outlook.soton.ac.uk/owa/redir.aspx?C=69b1RzNTDwem3wbm4pLRmuYfTLt16YjcghtEpZBsF5Sebx78I2DUCA..&URL=http%3a%2f%2faccess.ecs.soton.ac.uk%2f> > > UK AAATE rep http://www.aaate.net/ > <https://www.outlook.soton.ac.uk/owa/redir.aspx?C=WUwOCw_4FszLSzcUbkoFdDkad8-Q_GrRfPYUJ_ol5l2ebx78I2DUCA..&URL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.aaate.net%2f> > > > > *From:* lisa.seeman [mailto:lisa.seeman@zoho.com] > *Sent:* 24 July 2017 09:06 > *To:* W3c-Wai-Gl-Request@W3. Org <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> > *Cc:* public-cognitive-a11y-tf <public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org> > *Subject:* Plain language at AAA > > > > > We did not get plain language in a t double AA but we would like to retry > at AAA. This way issues such as author burden will not matter as much. > > > > The issue is at https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/41 > > (The discussion is really at issue 30) > > > > It is the same as what we had at AA other than we changed the scope to > include important information. > > The current wording is: > > > > > > For error messages, instructions, headings, important information, labels > and navigational elements all of the following are true: > > Double negatives > > Double negatives are not used to express a positive statement. > > Common words > > Provide words, phrases or abbreviations that are the most-common form to > refer to the concept in a public word frequency list for the identified > context. > > Concrete language > > Non-literal language is not used, or can be automatically replaced, via an > easy-to-set user setting. All meaning must be retained when non-literal > text is replaced. > > *Exceptions:* Content is exempt if the writing style is an essential part > of the main function of the site, or content will be penalized for not > conforming to a given writing style such as a game, a literary work, > teaching new terms, a CV, dissertation, or Ph.D. proposal. > > > > > > > > All the best > > Lisa Seeman > > LinkedIn <http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/>, Twitter > <https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa> > > -- John Foliot Principal Accessibility Strategist Deque Systems Inc. john.foliot@deque.com Advancing the mission of digital accessibility and inclusion
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