Re: Combine 79, 78, and 74 SCs? (was Re: Mechanism Disclaimer)

Laura,

Thank you - that appears to be significantly more focused on what the
author should (or shouldn't) be doing, although I'd still like it to focus
more on the roles of both author and user:

"Document styling using CSS is created in a way that permits *users* to
change presentational styling while not causing loss of content or
functionality. If no mechanism exists to change presentational styling on
any user agent for the target technology, then the *author* has no
responsible to
create one."


In my draft re-write, I think there is a clearer demarcation between what
the author needs to do (create modify-able CSS styles) and what the
end-user needs to do (make personalization choices).

Thoughts?

JF



On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 1:46 PM, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Alastair, Patrick and all,
>
> Here is an idea.
>
> Alastair wrote:
> > Perhaps it should be something like:
> > "Changing the font-family used to display a web page does not cause loss
> of
> > content or functionality."
>
> Since the aim of issue 79 (font [1]), 78 (spacing [2]), and 74 (text
> color [3]) are so similar in aim why not expand it to cover those too?
> At one point in the Spacing SC issue Patrick suggested [4]:
>
> "...why not generalize the SC so that all sorts of presentational
> attributes (beyond just spacing) can be changed using user styles or
> similar? And the failure examples could then include things like
> !important and style attributes?"
>
> Would something such as the following be too wide?
>
> "Changing presentational styling does not cause loss of content or
> functionality."
>
> And then adjust Wayne's disclaimer:
>
> "If no mechanism exists to change presentational styling on any user
> agent for the target technology, then the author has no responsible to
> create one."
>
> Kindest Regards,
> Laura
>
> [1] https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/79
> [2] https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/78
> [3] https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/74
> [4] https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/78#issuecomment-271164347
>
> On 1/19/17, Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com> wrote:
> > Hi Wayne,
> >
> > I'm not so concerned with whether the user can change the font-family, as
> > they can.
> >
> > It is what issues *come from* changing the font-family that are the
> problem.
> > I assume it is things like overlap, wrapping that breaks interactive
> > controls, and font-icons disappearing?
> >
> > Perhaps it should be something like:
> > "Changing the font-family used to display a web page does not cause loss
> of
> > content or functionality."
> >
> > Anyway, it's past midnight here, g'night!
> >
> > -Alastair
>
>
> --
> Laura L. Carlson
>
>


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