- From: Detlev Fischer <detlev.fischer@testkreis.de>
- Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 12:41:55 +0100 (CET)
- To: acampbell@nomensa.com
- Cc: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Alastair Campbell schrieb am 16.01.2017 12:29: > Hi Detlev, > > As it stands, no, because there is no movement involved that isn’t part of > ‘normal’ scrolling. > > I’m not sure if we /should/ be trying to cover colour changes (without > movement), that hasn’t come up in the examples of triggering animation, so > probably not. I guess it would depend on how disruptive the colour change is - imagine scrolling would start rapid changes that would even qualify as a flicker. We would want to catch this (although this is unlikely to be used unless the designer is bent on irritating users). > > Cheers, > > -Alastair > > > On 16/01/2017, 11:27, "Detlev Fischer" <detlev.fischer@testkreis.de> wrote: > > Hi Alastair, > thanks, I will check out the interview! > > As to example 2, you are right of course, but the colour change could quite > easily be triggered by scrolling as on this site (scroll right to the > bottom): > https://www.muenchner-kammerspiele.de/en > Not as subtle here, but would you fail this according to the draft SC of > issue 18? > > > > If you’d like to hear from the horse’s mouth (so to speak), I > recommend > > this interview: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhnIZh0xwk0 > > > > I consider this an extension to “Pause, Stop, Hide”, just with a > different > > trigger that didn’t really exist when WCAG 2.0 was drafted. I don’t > have > > numbers for how many people are affected, but again, if Apple got enough > > kick-back on iOS7 that they put in a user-setting to prevent animation, it > is > > quite a lot! > > > > The original idea was that it had to be: > > - Animation that is triggered by a user action, AND > > - The animation is not typically associated with the user-action, AND > > - The animation fills a large part of the screen. > > > > That was translated into: > > “For significant animation triggered by a user action that is not an > > essential part of the action, there is a mechanism for the user to pause, > stop > > or hide the animation whilst still performing the same action.” > > The way this is put ("whilst still performing the same action") makes me > wonder how you would stop it in the middle of the action, i.e. when you > notice it - an explicit control as in G186 would likely have to be at the > top to be noticed (and we know that often it won't be noticed even then). > Interesting to see what techniques we will come up with. > > > > Where “Significant animation” was defined as: “Animation which > continues > > for more than 1 second, and affects more than 1/3 of the view of the > > webpage.” > > > > > >> (2) A script changes the background of the page slowly and almost > >> imperceptively from a light grey to a light greyish mint tone then to a > pale > >> tea tint and back to light grey. Contrast to text is always OK. There IS > an > >> animation, it affects the entire viewport, but some might not even notice > it > >> and few would find it disruptive. > > > > This wouldn’t be caught be the SC unless it is triggered by user action, > that > > sounds like an automatic feature rather than triggered by the user. > > > > Here are some examples, TRIGGER WARNING for people with vestibular > dis-orders! > > http://www.masterlock.com/bluetooth (scroll or use the top nav) > > http://www.world-of-swiss.com/en (scroll) > > https://recurly.com/ (Scroll about 2/3 of the way down and there is a > Client > > stories carousel. Jumpy, hard stop animations are problematic. Easing > helps a > > lot.) > > http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/ (scroll, although the ‘dot’ menu on the > right > > allows you to bypass the animation, so that should be a consideration.) > > > > > >> Having said that, I fear that any attempt to nail down further criteria > beyond > >> 'percentage of viewport affected' will be hard to interpret in testing > >> (especially as many aspects of moving content will be difficult to > measure) > >> and probably miss all sorts of real life instances because they will > often not > >> fall neatly under what we meant to capture. > > > > Either a third or a half of the viewport would be a good metric for me. > > > > Please do watch the interview I linked to at the top, there is something > import > > in this requirement, we just need to define it. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > -Alastair > > > > > > > >
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