- From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
- Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 15:18:07 -0500
- To: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
- Cc: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAAdDpDZ-E1wtR7mf-3nPG7Z7KKvKt2G1kgfaK+kfVCeAb48svw@mail.gmail.com>
Also, what are the implications of the term "significant animation" vs "significant movement"? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animation Cheers, David MacDonald *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* Tel: 613.235.4902 LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> twitter.com/davidmacd GitHub <https://github.com/DavidMacDonald> www.Can-Adapt.com <http://www.can-adapt.com/> * Adapting the web to all users* * Including those with disabilities* If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy <http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi David, > > > Significant animation: Animation which continues for more than 2 > seconds, and the > > movement occupies more than 500 CSS pixels on the webpage > > Much simpler. Thank you! > > Kindest Regards, > Laura > > On 1/10/17, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca> wrote: > >>Would that make the Animation SC easier to test and the proposal > something > > you can live with? > > > > - Significant animation: Animation which continues for more than 1 > second, > > and affects more than 1/3 of the view of the webpage. > > > > - I would say 2 seconds threshold, so any animation less than 2 seconds > > passes, allowing most CSS transitions, which are an important design > > paradigm. > > - For the field, perhaps saying something like it has >500 CSS PX again > > that is fairly arbitrary... but at least measurable. > > > > - Significant animation: Animation which continues for more than 2 > seconds, > > and the movement occupies more than 500 CSS pixels on the webpage > > > > > > Cheers, > > David MacDonald > > > > > > > > *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* > > > > Tel: 613.235.4902 > > > > LinkedIn > > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> > > > > twitter.com/davidmacd > > > > GitHub <https://github.com/DavidMacDonald> > > > > www.Can-Adapt.com <http://www.can-adapt.com/> > > > > > > > > * Adapting the web to all users* > > * Including those with disabilities* > > > > If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy > > <http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> > > > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 2:20 PM, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca> > > wrote: > > > >> PS I see the definition of "significant" > >> Significant animation: Animation which continues for more than 1 second, > >> and affects more than 1/3 of the view of the webpage. > >> > >> I just wonder if that is the right threshold for triggering... > >> > >> Cheers, > >> David MacDonald > >> > >> > >> > >> *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* > >> > >> Tel: 613.235.4902 <(613)%20235-4902> > >> > >> LinkedIn > >> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> > >> > >> twitter.com/davidmacd > >> > >> GitHub <https://github.com/DavidMacDonald> > >> > >> www.Can-Adapt.com <http://www.can-adapt.com/> > >> > >> > >> > >> * Adapting the web to all users* > >> * Including those with disabilities* > >> > >> If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy > >> <http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> > >> > >> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 2:14 PM, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca > > > >> wrote: > >> > >>> I guess I identified 3 things that I'd like to explore: > >>> > >>> (1) A definition of "Significant" (Is the test case a definition?) > >>> (2) It is a major requirement on the modern web which is full of > >>> animation, so we better be ready to defend it, it requires designers to > >>> change designs, marketing to carve out space for a button on the "above > >>> the > >>> fold" etc... > >>> (3) minimal research available on triggering characteristics such as > >>> (length of exposure, speed, provocation, time of day, etc.) > >>> > >>> We have several people sharing their experience which is helpful... I > >>> know someone who shares Nat's experiences,and I've been talking with > >>> them > >>> about our exploration which she thinks would be helpful... but I would > >>> like more information for such a large requirement... > >>> > >>> There may be times when animation is helpful... for instance a long > home > >>> page on a website, and the author wants people to scroll down. The > >>> automated scroll lets them know they are moving to a place on the same > >>> page, rather than another page, so it helps distinguish an in page link > >>> (href=#...) from an regular link (href=http://...) > >>> > >>> It will cause many web sites to have to create a gear icon, or another > >>> button in addition to a "Pause" button on a carousel. One big thing is > >>> how > >>> to create a button that doesn't eat expensive real estate, that is > >>> easily > >>> understood. Is there an icon that people with vestibular disabilities > >>> would > >>> have? DO you say on the button on the $50Million above the fold part of > >>> the > >>> page <button>Stop all animation on this site</button>? > >>> > >>> those are my concerns... > >>> > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> David MacDonald > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* > >>> > >>> Tel: 613.235.4902 <(613)%20235-4902> > >>> > >>> LinkedIn > >>> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> > >>> > >>> twitter.com/davidmacd > >>> > >>> GitHub <https://github.com/DavidMacDonald> > >>> > >>> www.Can-Adapt.com <http://www.can-adapt.com/> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> * Adapting the web to all users* > >>> * Including those with disabilities* > >>> > >>> If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy > >>> <http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> > >>> > >>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Laura Carlson < > >>> laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi all, > >>>> > >>>> I am the manager of Issue 18 Animation from interactions [1]. David > >>>> noted an issue on his spreadsheet that the proposal: > >>>> > >>>> "Significant - is hard to test. Big requirement on modern animated > >>>> web... minimal research available on triggering characteristics such > >>>> as (length of exposure, speed, provocation, time of day, etc.)" > >>>> > >>>> The test in the proposal is: > >>>> > >>>> For each example of animation on a page/view check if: > >>>> > >>>> 1. The animation is triggered by a user-action, and > >>>> 2. the animation includes movement that is not essential to the > action, > >>>> and > >>>> 3. the animation takes more than 1 second and affects more than 1/3 of > >>>> the webpage view, and > >>>> 4. there is no way of using the webpage without triggering the > >>>> animation. > >>>> > >>>> If all are true then it fails. > >>>> > >>>> Do others think it is hard to test? If so, how could it be made > easier? > >>>> > >>>> Thank you. > >>>> > >>>> Kindest regards, > >>>> Laura > >>>> > >>>> [1] https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/18 > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Laura L. Carlson > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > > > > > -- > Laura L. Carlson >
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