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RE: Question: placeholder label option

From: Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 14:21:51 +0000
To: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
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Ø  it appears to me that the Placeholder attribute reports accurately to the ACCESSIBLENAME in the API for all interactive elements.

Independent from Sailesh’s good question about select – I’d argue that the placeholder attribute is not a good accessible name candidate and should also be used as a fallback but should not be relied upon for conformance.

Jonathan


From: David MacDonald [mailto:david100@sympatico.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 2:29 PM
To: Sailesh Panchang
Cc: WCAG
Subject: Re: Question: placeholder label option

Independent of the <select> specific element, it appears to me that the Placeholder attribute reports accurately to the ACCESSIBLENAME in the API for all interactive elements. From that perspective it seems to be sufficient. Where it is not sufficient is that it disappears when the user enters the field, so the moment they enter the filed, there is no visible label which fails 3.3.2.

We may want to look at techniques where the placeholder floats visibly above the interactive element on focus.

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On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Sailesh Panchang <spanchang02@yahoo.com<mailto:spanchang02@yahoo.com>> wrote:
From HTML5 specs:
"A  placeholder label option  does not represent an actual option, but instead represents a label for the  select control.
If a  select  element has a  required  attribute specified, does not have a  multiple  attribute specified, and has a  display size  of 1, then the  select element must have a placeholder label option.
 placeholder - User-visible label to be placed within the form control"

Question: Should a placeholder label option as defined  above qualify as an accessible name for a SELECT control?
It says it is a "label for a select control".
Thanks,
Sailesh Panchang

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