Re: Do we want a Biometric Alternative SC in WCAG 2.1?

?????

this is about how to make a web page accessible.    

I’m not sure how a web author has any idea what hardware is at the other end ofter than a screen, keyboard, and pointing device (which are pretty much standard).   And for these s/he can only design to the keyboard, screen and pointer interface since they don’t have any ideas of the size or form of the physical devices (though the screen size or at least pixels might be known. 

no? 

gregg

> On Jul 21, 2016, at 11:27 PM, Katie Haritos-Shea GMAIL <ryladog@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Gregg, <>
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> I think it depends on how sophisticated sensor web applications become, because they are advancing very rapidly and how they interact with the secure hardware elements in devices….
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> Katie Haritos-Shea 
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> From: Gregg Vanderheiden RTF [mailto:gregg@raisingthefloor.org] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 11:18 PM
> To: Katie Haritos-Shea <ryladog@gmail.com>
> Cc: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>; Patrick H. Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk>; GLWAI Guidelines WG org <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> Subject: Re: Do we want a Biometric Alternative SC in WCAG 2.1?
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> that is a hardware requirement — 
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> there is no way for an author to add a physical device to their website. 
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> am I missing something? 
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> gregg
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>> On Jul 21, 2016, at 11:12 PM, Katie Haritos-Shea GMAIL <ryladog@gmail.com <mailto:ryladog@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> What I would like to suggest is an additional and different SC that requires at least two types of biometric options.
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>> Katie Haritos-Shea 
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>> From: Gregg Vanderheiden [mailto:gregg@raisingthefloor.org <mailto:gregg@raisingthefloor.org>] 
>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 11:07 PM
>> To: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca <mailto:david100@sympatico.ca>>
>> Cc: Katie Haritos-Shea <ryladog@gmail.com <mailto:ryladog@gmail.com>>; Patrick H. Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk <mailto:redux@splintered.co.uk>>; GLWAI Guidelines WG org <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org <mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>>
>> Subject: Re: Do we want a Biometric Alternative SC in WCAG 2.1?
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>> Yes - that is what it says the AUTHOR must do.  
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>> To make content “Keyboard operable”  you must make sure that it is operable via the content or user agent's keyboard interface.  
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>> Then anything that feeds keystrokes to the user agent (browser) will be able to control the content.    (keyboard, voice to text, sip and puff program, etc)
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>> The author doesn't actually make it usable from the physical keyboard.  they make it accessible from the keyboard interface of their software or the user agent. 
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>> gregg
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>>> On Jul 21, 2016, at 8:53 PM, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca <mailto:david100@sympatico.ca>> wrote:
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>>> 2.1.1 says all functionality of the page has to be achievable with keyboard.
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>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Katie Haritos-Shea GMAIL <ryladog@gmail.com <mailto:ryladog@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> Thanks David, <>
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>>>> Well,  also allowing for an alternate biometric as well as via text input…..
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>>>> Can you point me to the Biometric that you are talking about?
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>>>> Katie Haritos-Shea 
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>>>> From: David MacDonald [mailto:david100@sympatico.ca <mailto:david100@sympatico.ca>] 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 7:21 PM
>>>> To: Katie Haritos-Shea GMAIL <ryladog@gmail.com <mailto:ryladog@gmail.com>>; Patrick Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk <mailto:redux@splintered.co.uk>>
>>>> Cc: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org <mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>>
>>>> Subject: Re: Do we want a Biometric Alternative SC in WCAG 2.1?
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>>>> yup... we currently require any input including Bio-metric,to be keyboard accessible, but perhaps there is room for more.
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>>>> It might fit into Patrick's wider "input" conversation, categorizing input devices (camera, shaking manipulating, etc.) into three broad categories, with perhaps a special category. It's a conversation in the mobile task force that has just begun but I guess will spill out because of it's general nature.
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>>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Katie Haritos-Shea GMAIL <ryladog@gmail.com <mailto:ryladog@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> Folks,
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>>>>> Along the same lines as the ‘Functional Performance-like’ SC, do we want discuss including a Biometric Alternative SC in WCAG 2.1?
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>>>>> ​​​​​Thanks!
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>>>>> Katie Haritos-Shea 
>>>>> Principal ICT Accessibility Architect (WCAG/Section 508/ADA/AODA)
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