RE: Should we drop any WCAG 2 SCs in 2.1?

Ø  Please — the requirement is NOT that things work with a physical keyboard.  Only the keyboard interface.   This can be any keyboard installed on the phone itself — including scanning or sip and puff or voice input or….     (it CAN also be external— but only if that is what a person wants to use)

I agree Gregg – but practically speaking please tell me how I can send control+m through a keyboard interface on iOS to the Firefox browser?  I know of no other way to do it other than a physical keyboard on iOS?  We’ve had this discussion many times and no one has been able to show me proof that the keyboard interface is fully there and working and can be used by assistive technologies to send specific keystrokes.  it comes down to an accessibility support issue in a closed system like iOS.  Please show the apps to I can use or how I might get an on-screen keyboard to appear from outside an input field and how I might send the control modifier key using iOS.

Jonathan

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From: Gregg Vanderheiden [mailto:gregg@raisingthefloor.org]
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 11:59 AM
To: Jonathan Avila
Cc: GLWAI Guidelines WG org
Subject: Re: Should we drop any WCAG 2 SCs in 2.1?

Please — the requirement is NOT that things work with a physical keyboard.  Only the keyboard interface.   This can be any keyboard installed on the phone itself — including scanning or sip and puff or voice input or….     (it CAN also be external— but only if that is what a person wants to use)

gregg

On Jul 18, 2016, at 10:44 AM, Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com<mailto:jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com>> wrote:

>  I don't see how I can ever fail someone on 1.4.2 anymore, thanks to James pointing this out.  If we are looking to not cause SC bloat with the new SCs, perhaps we can make a new category for SCs which have been largely overcome by advances in User Agents etc... which still apply to 2.1 but are folded away somewhere so 2.1 is not bloated with SCs that developers don't need to worry about.

I respectfully disagree with you David.  Carrying around a physical keyboard with my iPhone so I can press control+M to mute audio is not acceptable.

Jonathan