- From: White, Jason J <jjwhite@ets.org>
- Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 16:27:23 +0000
- To: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
- CC: "Patrick H. Lauke" <redux@splintered.co.uk>, "public-mobile-a11y-tf@w3.org" <public-mobile-a11y-tf@w3.org>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
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From: David MacDonald [mailto:david100@sympatico.ca] Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 12:18 PM Anyone know the status of indie UI? [Jason] The group closed, but the work can be continued by the ARIA working group. See the Charter, and note the reference to “User Context Properties”, and the interaction module (I’m not sure exactly what the latter is supposed to be, but I suspect it could encompass the IndieUI work on abstract events). https://www.w3.org/2015/10/aria-charter.html Cheers, David MacDonald CanAdapt Solutions Inc. Tel: 613.235.4902 LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> twitter.com/davidmacd<http://twitter.com/davidmacd> GitHub<https://github.com/DavidMacDonald> www.Can-Adapt.com<http://www.can-adapt.com/> Adapting the web to all users Including those with disabilities If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy<http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 11:29 AM, White, Jason J <jjwhite@ets.org<mailto:jjwhite@ets.org>> wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: Patrick H. Lauke [mailto:redux@splintered.co.uk<mailto:redux@splintered.co.uk>] > On 04/07/2016 15:22, Alastair Campbell wrote: > > Secondly, if the user is in a mobile context (e.g. screenreader on a > > smartphone) then they will be in the small screen version regardless > > of zoom and require access to the same content & functionality. > > Therefore all sizes of a responsive design must have equivalent > > content & functionality. > > But Adam's point (which I also agree with in this context) is that looking purely at > the "all users that are on a mobile device", they all get the equivalent > experience, regardless of their ability/disability. > So saying that a priori a reduced functionality small screen site is discriminating > against users with disabilities on a mobile site isn't quite accurate. [Jason] I agree. Further, if we assume for the sake of discussion that the entire site conforms to WCAG 2.0, then there's obviously no question of conforming alternate versions, hence no requirement of equivalent content and functionality established by WCAG as currently written. > > But, as already pointed out, since the small screen version can also be triggered > in the desktop+zoom+small browser window scenario, THAT is a concern. > [Jason] Yes it is. If it's still possible to access all of the content and functionality by invoking links, menu options or other UI controls, then I'm less concerned by these scenarios. The content and functionality might not all be on the same Web page as it is in the "large screen" view, but at least it's available. Where some of it is missing altogether, the user who seeks magnification without horizontal scrolling is disadvantaged. Personalization techniques could distinguish between the mobile device user, the large font user, and the person who needs an uncluttered interface for cognitive reasons; but we can't require this degree of personalization until we put the necessary standards in place. There is scope within the ARIA working group to take up the task from where the IndieUI working group finished, but this effort hasn't started yet due to the necessary focus on completing ARIA 1.1. ________________________________ This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may contain privileged or confidential information. It is solely for use by the individual for whom it is intended, even if addressed incorrectly. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender; do not disclose, copy, distribute, or take any action in reliance on the contents of this information; and delete it from your system. Any other use of this e-mail is prohibited. Thank you for your compliance. ________________________________ ________________________________ This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may contain privileged or confidential information. It is solely for use by the individual for whom it is intended, even if addressed incorrectly. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender; do not disclose, copy, distribute, or take any action in reliance on the contents of this information; and delete it from your system. Any other use of this e-mail is prohibited. Thank you for your compliance. ________________________________
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