Re: Should G83: "Providing text descriptions to identify required fields that were not completed" reference 3.3.2?

Sometimes the application does not know if a field is required until it 
is submitted. If this behaviour is the same for all users - and the 
error messaging is happening in an accessible manner why would this be 
an accessibility issue?

regards,
James

On 2/10/2016 9:03 AM, Jonathan Avila wrote:
> Sailesh, I agree we need a resolution on this.  Right now this association indicates that you can comply with the required field indication visually and programmatically only appearing after submitting a form.  That is a page with required fields does not need to indicate them to conform to WCAG except on error then the required field state would need to be indicated visually/programmatically.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sailesh Panchang [mailto:sailesh.panchang@deque.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 11:45 AM
> To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
> Subject: Should G83: "Providing text descriptions to identify required fields that were not completed" reference 3.3.2?
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> SC 3.3.2 is listed as the third applicable SC for this technique.
> In example #3 the error text displayed after form submission is associated using the LABEL element. So this really  is a method of meeting 1.3.1 ... not 3.3.2.
> The label, "First name" still remains the label that conveys the purpose of the field that satisfies 3.3.2.
> Associating an asterisk or "- mandatory" or "-optional" or error text as part of the LABEL element is a method of meeting 1.3.1. Refer ARIA2 for instance.
> So my recommendation is that  "SC 3.3.2" should be deleted from list of applicable SCs of G83. It is alright to retain the example though because it clarifies how 3.3.1 and 3.3.3 are met.
> Thanks,
> Sailesh Panchang
>

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