Re[4]: SCs for Mega Menu fails

Hi Sailesh,

>Are these examples of JS events being triggered incorrectly?
Not IMO.

>Accessibility aside for a moment, this impacts all users. So it is
>surely poor usability / functionality for all.
Yes.

>Menus / popups can be implemented without such issues being manifested.
>Techniques that guide  creation of such interfaces should be done
>right. This does not call for a new SC.
Maybe not - but I'm not so sure that it doesn't. This issue seems to 
fall into a gap between input/focus/pointer issues.

Thanks

Josh

>Thanks,
>Sailesh Panchang
>
>
>On 5/10/16, josh@interaccess.ie <josh@interaccess.ie> wrote:
>>
>>>Ø  When a site has a large and distracting Mega Menu that is often
>>>triggered accidently on a mouse over, for example,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I’ve actually run into issues like this as well when things pop open
>>>because I moved my mouse over one item to reach something else but 
>>>did
>>>not intend to open the pop up.  On a related note I’ve also run into
>>>the issue when I wanted to select a sub level item from an open menu
>>>and the menu closed because I moved my mouse over something else or
>>>outside of the bounds of the menu on my way to the sub menu items.
>>>
>>  Thanks for that Jon. I think its a common problem.
>>
>>>There are also situations like YouTube media players where when I 
>>>move
>>>my mouse into the player to use the controls the controls disappear 
>>>and
>>>when I move my mouse out of the player the controls appear.  
>>>Certainly
>>>these issues are issues for all people – but I’d imagine they can
>>>negatively affect users with disabilities more.  Once again, SC 
>>>3.2.1.
>>>and 3.2.2 seem to focus on changes of context for input and focus and
>>>not with the pointing device– so I’m not sure these pointing device
>>>issues fit into the current WCAG.
>>>
>>  Yes, this is something for us to look at, definitely.
>>
>>  Josh
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Jonathan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Jonathan Avila
>>>
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>>>SSB BART Group
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>>>
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>>>
>>>From:josh@interaccess.ie [mailto:josh@interaccess.ie]
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 8:03 AM
>>>To:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
>>>Subject: SCs for Mega Menu fails
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>When a site has a large and distracting Mega Menu that is often
>>>triggered accidently on a mouse over, for example,
>>>
>>>I think this should be a flagged as an issue for many users. The
>>>question is, are distracting Mega Menus (DMMs ;-)) considered a fail 
>>>of
>>>either 3.2.1 On Focus/3.2.2 On Input ?
>>>
>>>I personally don't think it's either but, I need a way of saying to a
>>>client - 'This thing is disorientating and will be confusing
>>>
>>>for some PWDs, and regular users will thank you for removing it'  but
>>>if I can't call it out as a fail
>>>
>>>of a pertinent SC - then my advice will likely be ignored.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>So I'm wondering if (in the future) we need a new SC or change an
>>>existing one, to cover user input/interaction error?
>>>
>>>Or do you guys think 3.2.1 On Focus/3.2.2 On Input are sufficient 
>>>(with
>>>a small s).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Josh
>>>

Received on Tuesday, 10 May 2016 13:43:24 UTC