- From: Patrick H. Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk>
- Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 11:54:20 +0100
- To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Apologies for jumping straight in here after only having been officially nominated/joined...but as this whole discussion around 1.3.1 was the trigger that made me officially join, here's what I've just sent as comment to the survey https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/5April2016_misc/ (with further apologies as this was probably already touched-on/discussed here): Landmarks are not required. "Landmarks are *a* technique to provide information/structure. They cannot be required (nor can any other specific technique/implementation) as at the time WCAG 2.0 was formalised they weren't even in existence/supported, to my knowledge. Claiming they are would retrospectively fail sites that up until now passed on this point. More generally, in my view there is no hard requirement to always having to identify landmarks on every single page, in every single document. Key here is "information important for comprehension will be perceivable to all". Is every instance of a fairly clearly defined footer (perhaps with a heading, a list of links to Ts&Cs, privacy policy, a copyright notice) completely non-understandable to a user who cannot perceive its styling? Will real users be confused by a lack of <footer> element or relevant ARIA role? Further, is a role="region" (another sufficient technique for 1.3.1) then NOT acceptable compared to role="contentinfo"? IF you determine that it is important to identify explicitly which part of the page is the header, which is the footer, which is the main; IF you don't deem it understandable enough for real users if these are simply happening sequentially; IF you deem the structure of the overall page so complex that a real user who can't visually perceive the page structure would be confused/unable to understand it otherwise; THEN something needs to be in place that further clarifies this structure. you can choose aria landmarks, or aria regions, or headings, or some other implementation that may not have even been dreamed up/documented in the non-normative techniques document. the HOW is not important. what matters is the end result: will a real user be less confused / understand the overall structure of the page better than before. jumping from this to "WCAG requires aria landmarks" is reaching. P -- Patrick H. Lauke www.splintered.co.uk | https://github.com/patrickhlauke http://flickr.com/photos/redux/ | http://redux.deviantart.com twitter: @patrick_h_lauke | skype: patrick_h_lauke
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