- From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
- Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 16:47:05 -0400
- To: Detlev Fischer <detlev.fischer@testkreis.de>
- Cc: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAAdDpDYeo3YU5XE2goBww=wndAN5P3_EFHpj1MTh7bN6RaAKjA@mail.gmail.com>
I've taken the feedback and created another diagram that may be clearer. I've tried to simplify it, particularly reducing the complexity of the errors. http://davidmacd.com/blog/WCAG-extension-proposed-integration-into-WCAG.html Cheers, David MacDonald *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* Tel: 613.235.4902 LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> www.Can-Adapt.com * Adapting the web to all users* * Including those with disabilities* If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy <http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 12:38 PM, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca> wrote: > Hi Detlev > > >>"WCAG Extension" is both the label of the blob in the normative section > BUT ALSO heads the WCAG extensions to the left (the boxes Mobile, > Coginitve, Low vision). > > The proposal is that the left side is the the individual task force work. > Any success criteria and guidelines would be gathered up and adjusted for > redundancies etc, > > >>The meaning of the arrows could be that some or all of that stuff feeds > into a normative extension or that there a relation of sorts between two > separate things. > > Yes, I'm suggesting that the three extensions could be combined into one > normative extension. > > >>>it doesn't tell me clearly if and when I need to meet the Extension to > claim WCAG 2.0 conformance. > > WCAG 2 will never change, so the extension circle is not required to meet > WCAG 2 but if some jurisdiction requires "WCAG2 + Extension", then it would > be required in addition to WCAG. That is why it is in the normative box... > Normative means it will go through a formal acceptance procedure which is > very rigorous. Once something is declared normative it is very hard to > change... that would be any Guidelines and Success Criteria that the task > forces make, and are approved. > > Explanation of Normative https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normative > > The techniques we work up in the task forces will go into the > "informative" bucket... they are non normative and can be easily changed, > fixed, or adapted and they can be referenced either by the extension or the > core WCAG. > > > > > Cheers, > > David MacDonald > > > > *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* > > Tel: 613.235.4902 > > LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> > > www.Can-Adapt.com > > > > * Adapting the web to all users* > * Including those with disabilities* > > If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy > <http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Detlev Fischer < > detlev.fischer@testkreis.de> wrote: > >> What I currently find confusing is that "WCAG Extension" is both the >> label of the blob in the normative section BUT ALSO heads the WCAG >> extensions to the left (the boxes Mobile, Coginitve, Low vision). The >> meaning of the arrows could be that some or all of that stuff feeds into a >> normative extension or that there a relation of sorts between two separate >> things. The diagram also leaves me uncertain as to the exact status of >> *the* Extension or the *extensions* - it doesn't tell me clearly if and >> when I need to meet the Extension to claim WCAG 2.0 conformance. >> >> -- >> Detlev Fischer >> testkreis c/o feld.wald.wiese >> Thedestr. 2, 22767 Hamburg >> >> Mobil +49 (0)1577 170 73 84 >> Tel +49 (0)40 439 10 68-3 >> Fax +49 (0)40 439 10 68-5 >> >> http://www.testkreis.de >> Beratung, Tests und Schulungen für barrierefreie Websites >> >> Laura Carlson schrieb am 24.09.2015 16:33: >> >> > Hi David and all, >> > >> > I think the idea of a flowchart to depicted how separate extensions >> > become 1 unified WCAG extension is great. Reminds me of those "How a >> > bill becomes a law" diagrams. >> > >> > I gave the flowchart it's own section on the WCAG 2 Extension >> > Principles Wiki Page. >> > https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/WCAG_2_Extension_Principles >> > >> > Thanks for your hard work. >> > >> > Best regards, >> > Laura >> > >> > On 9/24/15, Srinivasu Chakravarthula < >> srinivasu.chakravarthula@deque.com> >> > wrote: >> >> +1 Great work, David. >> >> >> >> >From the beginning at least my understanding is that TFs are >> subgroups of >> >> WGs. >> >> Best, >> >> Srini >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> >> >> *Srinivasu Chakravarthula* >> >> Sr. Accessibility Consultant, *Deque* <http://deque.com> >> >> Hand phone: +91 709 380 3855 >> >> >> >> Deque University <http://dequeuniversity.com> | Follow me on Twitter >> >> <http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu> | Connect on LinkedIn >> >> <http://linkedin.com/in/srinivasuc> | About Me < >> http://about.me/srinivasuc> >> >> >> >> Technology is a gift to everyone; let's create inclusive digital >> experience >> >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 2:05 PM, josh@interaccess.ie < >> josh@interaccess.ie> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Great stuff David! As discussed on the call yesterday - one area that >> >>> your diagram would need to address is the nexus/delta between related >> >>> techniques (as outputs from various TFs that cover users in other >> >>> groups). >> >>> >> >>> At least to indicate that in your document flow would be good as the >> >>> techniques may not always be exclusively related to the needs of each >> TFs >> >>> target user group. >> >>> >> >>> I also think that the Mobile TF, Cognitive TF and Low Vision TF work >> >>> belongs 'inside' the 'WCAG Extension' Circle, as the TFs are tasked >> to do >> >>> this work, and your visual representation indicates that they may be >> >>> separate. >> >>> >> >>> Good work though :-) >> >>> >> >>> Josh >> >>> >> >>> ------ Original Message ------ >> >>> From: "David MacDonald" <david100@sympatico.ca> >> >>> To: "WCAG" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> >> >>> Sent: 23/09/2015 21:14:56 >> >>> Subject: Diagram of WCAG Extension integration into WCAG (Proposal) >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> I've created a diagram of how we might integrate the extensions into a >> >>> single document. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> http://davidmacd.com/blog/WCAG-extension-proposed-integration-into-WCAG.html >> >>> >> >>> Description: >> >>> The task forces, Mobile, Cognitive, and Low Vision would develop >> >>> guidelines, success criteria and techniques separately, and then >> >>> integrate >> >>> them to resolve conflicts and overlaps and then integrate them into >> the >> >>> singular WCAG extension. The techniques would be collected in a non >> >>> normative document as techniques for the extension, and some of them >> can >> >>> be >> >>> referenced from WCAG 2 where the techniques might apply to an existing >> >>> Success criteria. >> >>> >> >>> Cheers, >> >>> >> >>> David MacDonald >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* >> >>> >> >>> Tel: 613.235.4902 >> >>> >> >>> LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> >> >>> >> >>> www.Can-Adapt.com <http://www.can-adapt.com/> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> * Adapting the web to all users* >> >>> * Including those with disabilities* >> >>> >> >>> If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy >> policy >> >>> <http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Laura L. Carlson >> > >> >> >> >> >
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