- From: Katie Haritos-Shea <ryladog@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 21:44:31 -0400
- To: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
- Cc: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAEy-OxE0BaJy0Nt7XrYbJ9KMz4ALz4ZsbZFV+HUFmTz_h8Uecg@mail.gmail.com>
David, Yes that is what I was referring to. I think this is a problem especially for low vision users - perhaps we have done a disservice to those users in this instance..... * katie * Katie Haritos-Shea @ GMAIL On Mar 25, 2015 4:05 PM, "David MacDonald" <david100@sympatico.ca> wrote: > Hi Katie > > Do you mean if for example if someone has images turned off, or if a file > reference was wrong, the alt would appear in the space where the image is, > but the aria-label won't? > > If so, I've heard a few discussions of that on the HTML5 group. I think > most would say that it is not a cross browser behaviour, and that some > browsers show the alt, and others don't show the alt, and that browsers > could show the aria-label if they wanted to. > > The precedence which was set when we removed the requirement for alt on > images if there is another means of reporting ACCNAME to the API, (which I > was not particularly in favour of), sets a precedent that this behaviour of > populating the empty image space with a visible alt, is not considered > necessary for conformance by our Committee, and therefore not necessary for > conformance here. > > Cheers, > > David MacDonald > > > > *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* > > Tel: 613.235.4902 > > LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> > > www.Can-Adapt.com > > > > * Adapting the web to all users* > * Including those with disabilities* > > If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy > <http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Katie Haritos-Shea GMAIL < > ryladog@gmail.com> wrote: > >> David, >> >> >> >> The other issue was what is visually apparent to users who do not use AT >> (concerning CSS images), but are not getting the images. There is not alt >> text. Any ideas on that issue? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ** katie ** >> >> >> >> *Katie Haritos-Shea* >> *Senior Accessibility SME (WCAG/Section 508/ADA/AODA)* >> >> >> >> *Cell: 703-371-5545 <703-371-5545> **|* *ryladog@gmail.com* >> <ryladog@gmail.com> *|* *Oakton, VA **|* *LinkedIn Profile* >> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/katieharitosshea/> *|* *Office: 703-371-5545 >> <703-371-5545>* >> >> >> >> *From:* David MacDonald [mailto:david100@sympatico.ca] >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2015 12:34 PM >> *To:* WCAG >> *Subject:* Discussion of alt for CSS images >> >> >> >> Reading through the minutes I see there was a discussion about CSS in >> images... it appears one concern is that it is not announced to screen >> readers as an image. Although I generally discourage the use or CSS images, >> if someone has to do them I suggest using role="image" >> >> <div role="image" class="myPicture" aria-label="My dog fluffy looking >> happy"> >> >> This should announce to a screen reader that it is an image and the >> alternate text... >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> David MacDonald >> >> >> >> *CanAdapt* *Solutions Inc.* >> >> Tel: 613.235.4902 >> >> LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> >> >> www.Can-Adapt.com >> >> >> >> * Adapting the web to all users* >> >> * Including those with disabilities* >> >> >> >> If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy >> <http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Marc Johlic <johlic@us.ibm.com> wrote: >> >> Minutes for the March 24, 2015 meeting: >> http://www.w3.org/2015/03/24-wai-wcag-minutes.html >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> Marc >> >> >> Marc Johlic | Accessibility Consultant - Web, Mobile, & Multimedia | IBM >> *Accessibility* | IBM Research >> >> >> >> >> From: Joshue O Connor <joshue.oconnor@cfit.ie> >> To: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> >> Date: 03/20/2015 09:30 AM >> Subject: WCAG Agenda March 24 2015 >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> >> >> The WCAG WG will be meeting on Tuesday, 24 March 2015 at 11AM Eastern US >> >> (Length: up to 90 minutes) >> >> Bridge: +1.617.761.6200 (US) Passcode: 9224# >> >> IRC: irc.w3.org<http://irc.w3.org> port: 6665 channel #wai-wcag >> >> Scribe list:https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Scribe_List >> >> Survey/Agenda >> >> 1) WCAG F2F @ TPAC Sapporo, and comment responses etc >> New survey https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/24thMarch2015/ >> >> 2) Techniques work >> >> 3) Charter update >> >> 4) Reminder about outstanding actions >> >> -- >> Joshue O Connor/Andrew Kirkpatrick >> WCAG working group co-chairs >> >> >> >> > >
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