Re: Discussion of alt for CSS images

Hi Katie

Do you mean if for example if someone has images turned off, or if a file
reference was wrong, the alt would appear in the space where the image is,
but the aria-label won't?

If so, I've heard a few discussions of that on the HTML5 group. I think
most would say that it is not a cross browser behaviour, and that some
browsers show the alt, and others don't show the alt, and that browsers
could show the aria-label if they wanted to.

The precedence which was set when we removed the requirement for alt on
images if there is another means of reporting ACCNAME to the API, (which I
was not particularly in favour of), sets a precedent that this behaviour of
populating the empty image space with a visible alt, is not considered
necessary for conformance by our Committee, and therefore not necessary for
conformance here.

Cheers,

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On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Katie Haritos-Shea GMAIL <
ryladog@gmail.com> wrote:

> David,
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> The other issue was what is visually apparent to users who do not use AT
> (concerning CSS images), but are not getting the images. There is not alt
> text. Any ideas on that issue?
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> *From:* David MacDonald [mailto:david100@sympatico.ca]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2015 12:34 PM
> *To:* WCAG
> *Subject:* Discussion of alt for CSS images
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> Reading through the minutes I see there was a discussion about CSS in
> images... it appears one concern is that it is not announced to screen
> readers as an image. Although I generally discourage the use or CSS images,
> if someone has to do them I suggest using role="image"
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> <div role="image" class="myPicture" aria-label="My dog fluffy looking
> happy">
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> This should announce to a screen reader that it is an image and the
> alternate text...
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> Cheers,
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> David MacDonald
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> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Marc Johlic <johlic@us.ibm.com> wrote:
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> Minutes for the March 24, 2015 meeting:
> http://www.w3.org/2015/03/24-wai-wcag-minutes.html
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> Thanks,
> Marc
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> Marc Johlic | Accessibility Consultant - Web, Mobile, & Multimedia | IBM
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