- From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
- Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 16:11:27 -0400
- To: Sailesh Panchang <sailesh.panchang@deque.com>
- CC: Loretta Guarino Reid <lorettaguarino@google.com>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
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Thanks Loretta I will move it to the WIKI... We'll need more time before using pull requests for developing techniques. Perhaps when we are able to get a rendering system XML to HTML, where we can see the HTML transformation in real time. Cheers, David MacDonald *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* Tel: 613.235.4902 LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> www.Can-Adapt.com * Adapting the web to all users* * Including those with disabilities* If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy<http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Sailesh Panchang < sailesh.panchang@deque.com> wrote: > Lorettaa, > > >> * Also, note somewhere that the descirption will not show up in link > lists. (Nothing >>prevents screen readers from including it, of course, but > they don't seem to be doing >>that.) > Sailesh: This behavior of SRs is quite right. The aria-describedby > text is accessible description and is spoken after the anchor text > because it is contextual info and not the link's name. If > aria-labelledby is used, that text becomes the link's name and is > exposed as the link's identifier in a links list. > As one might expect, SRs do not expose a link's contextual info like > associated table header cell, paragraph text or nearest heading text > in a links list. > >>* We also think there should be a similar technique using > aria-labelledby, which has a different set of strengths and weaknesses > (mostly related to how screen >>readers handle it). > Sailesh: ARIA7 is already documented for SC 2.4.4. > > Thanks and regards, > Sailesh > > > On 5/15/14, Loretta Guarino Reid <lorettaguarino@google.com> wrote: > > David, here is the task force feedback on your draft: > > > > * We like this technique and would like to see it published in the next > > update, if possible > > > > * Logistics: it is very hard to read from github. We would really rather > > have you start in the wiki, where it is also easier to make edits. (Like > > fixing the typo in imporvements. > > > > > > * We would like user agent notes that explain what current screen readers > > do (e.g. order of reading, long delay in VoiceOver before description is > > read) and that ARIA doesn't specify what the screen reader should do, so > > the behavior may be unpredictable. In general, however, screen readers > seem > > to read the description automatically for links. > > > > * Also, note somewhere that the descirption will not show up in link > lists. > > (Nothing prevents screen readers from including it, of course, but they > > don't seem to be doing that.) > > > > * We also think there should be a similar technique using > aria-labelledby, > > which has a different set of strengths and weaknesses (mostly related to > > how screen readers handle it). > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 6:53 PM, David MacDonald > > <david100@sympatico.ca>wrote: > > > >> I have to teach tomorrow but I've create ARIA 20 an aria-describedby > >> technique for link context. > >> > >> *http://tinyurl.com/k3hs3wr <http://tinyurl.com/k3hs3wr>* > >> > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> David MacDonald > >> > >> > >> > >> *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* > >> > >> Tel: 613.235.4902 > >> > >> LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> > >> > >> www.Can-Adapt.com > >> > >> > >> > >> * Adapting the web to all users* > >> * Including those with disabilities* > >> > >> If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy > >> policy<http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 7:39 PM, Loretta Guarino Reid < > >> lorettaguarino@google.com> wrote: > >> > >>> The next regular working meeting for techniques for WCAG will take > place > >>> tomorrow (Thursday) at 4pm EDT > >>> > >>> There are techniques to discuss on the agenda at > >>> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Techniques_working_meeting_agenda . > >>> Please add anything else you would like to talk about and also feel > free > >>> to > >>> attend to help others work through their techniques even if you have > >>> nothing on the agenda. > >>> > >>> > >>> The call details are as follows > >>> > >>> Meeting Information > >>> Length: 60 minutes Date: Thursday 08 May Time: 4PM EDT (8pm UTC) > >>> Bridge: +1.617.761.6200 (US) > >>> SIP: zakim@voip.w3.org > >>> Passcode: 9224# > >>> IRC channel #wcag-techs > >>> > >> > >> > > > > >
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