Minutes WCAG 29 September 2011 from Michael Cooper on 2011-09-29 (w3c-wai-gl@w3.org from July to September 2011)

From: Michael Cooper <cooper@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 17:31:35 -0400
To: List WAI GL <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
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Minutes of the 29 September 2011 WCAG meeting are posted to
http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-wai-wcag-minutes.html and copied below.


  Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference


    29 Sep 2011

Agenda <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2011JulSep/0176.html>

See also: IRC log <http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-wai-wcag-irc>


    Attendees

Present
    James_Nurthen, Mary_Utt, Bruce_Bailey, Michael_Cooper,
    Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Marc_Johlic, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, David_MacDonald
Regrets
    Tim_Boland, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Adam_Solomon
Chair
    Loretta_Guarino_Reid
Scribe
    jamesn


    Contents

    * Topics <http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-wai-wcag-minutes.html#agenda>
         1. Issue LC-2493: T3: Using standard text formatting
            conventions for headings
            <http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item01>
         2. Issue LC-2494: innerHTMLnow part of DOM spec (HTML5) and
            widely used - allow?
            <http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item02>
         3. Issue LC-2498: Understanding SC 2.4.6 needs improvement
            <http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item03>
         4. Issue LC-2499: Mixup in Understanding doc: SC 3.2.2 and SC
            3.2.5
            <http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item04>
         5. Issue LC-2508: Linking to old version of Inspect Objects
            <http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item05>
         6. Issue LC-2533: Technique has poor and undocumented browser
            support
            <http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item06>
         7. Issue LC-2546: Embedded Flash content
            <http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item07>
         8. Issue LC-2562: Misinterpretation of list of assistive
            technologies and versions supporting PDF techniques
            <http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item08>
         9. Issue LC-2569: Example 2
            <http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item09>
        10. Issue LC-2570: Technique for a decorative image?
            <http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item10>
        11. New example for H48: Using ol, ul and dl for lists or groups
            of links
            <http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item11>
    * Summary of Action Items
      <http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-wai-wcag-minutes.html#ActionSummary>

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<trackbot> Date: 29 September 2011

<scribe> scribeNick: jamesn

*RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2464: Statement of Partial Conformance as
proposed*
... Accept Issue LC-2476: Errata page at
http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/errata/ as proposed
... Accept Issue LC-2477: Expanding acronym of WCAG 2.0 in the document
title as proposed
... Accept Issue LC-2563: Generating PDF Files - Complexity of last
para. as proposed
... Accept Issue LC-2566: Word's table headings as proposed
... Accept Issue LC-2568: Inclusiveness of examples in PDF Techniques as
proposed
... Accept to Draft a new failure for text input causing a change of
context for 3.2.2 for future review


      Issue LC-2493: T3: Using standard text formatting conventions for
      headings

<Loretta>
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2011Sep/0033.html

<MichaelC> issue: Plain text techniques aren't "accessibility supported"
yet we hold other technologies to that bar. Need to discuss if it makes
sense to keep plain text techniques or what.

<trackbot> Created ISSUE-9 - Plain text techniques aren't "accessibility
supported" yet we hold other technologies to that bar. Need to discuss
if it makes sense to keep plain text techniques or what. ; please
complete additional details at
http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/track/issues/9/edit .

*RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2493: T3: Using standard text formatting
conventions for headings as amended*


      Issue LC-2494: innerHTMLnow part of DOM spec (HTML5) and widely
      used - allow?

Loretta proposes keeping this issue open with a note that we don't plan
to address it in this iteration

Michael proposes an issue or an action which could be linked to this
issue. Then close this one.

<MichaelC> issue: Consider if innerHTML is an ok WCAG technique for script

<trackbot> Created ISSUE-10 - Consider if innerHTML is an ok WCAG
technique for script ; please complete additional details at
http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/track/issues/10/edit .

<MichaelC> issue-10: relates to comment LC-2494
http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/35422/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20101014/2494

<trackbot> ISSUE-10 Consider if innerHTML is an ok WCAG technique for
script notes added

<MichaelC> issue-10: surveyed 29 September 2011
http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20110929/results#x2494

<trackbot> ISSUE-10 Consider if innerHTML is an ok WCAG technique for
script notes added

*RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2494: innerHTMLnow part of DOM spec (HTML5)
and widely used - allow? as amended with pointer to new issue*


      Issue LC-2498: Understanding SC 2.4.6 needs improvement

looks like the response is garbled. Need to bounce back to person who
proposed.


      Issue LC-2499: Mixup in Understanding doc: SC 3.2.2 and SC 3.2.5

Loretta proposes leaving this open too

leave this open


      Issue LC-2508: Linking to old version of Inspect Objects

*RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2508: Linking to old version of Inspect
Objects as amended*


      Issue LC-2533: Technique has poor and undocumented browser support

*RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2533: Technique has poor and undocumented
browser support as proposed*


      Issue LC-2546: Embedded Flash content

<Loretta>
http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/time-limits-pause.html

<Loretta>
http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/35422/WD-UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20-20110621/2546

*RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2546: Embedded Flash content as amended*


      Issue LC-2562: Misinterpretation of list of assistive technologies
      and versions supporting PDF techniques

<Loretta> The PDF techniques link to PDF files that can be used for
testing the technique.

<Loretta> The examples in the PDF techniques link to PDF files that may
be used for testing the techniques.

*RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2562: Misinterpretation of list of
assistive technologies and versions supporting PDF techniques as amended*


      Issue LC-2569: Example 2

<scribe> *ACTION:* james to contact Adam to find out why there is a
diconnect on LC-2569 [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-153 - Contact Adam to find out why there is a
diconnect on LC-2569 [on James Nurthen - due 2011-10-06].


      Issue LC-2570: Technique for a decorative image?

Loretta states that doesn't want this merged now but should perhaps be
addressed in the next set of work

Removing techniques at this stage of the review process probably
shouldn't happen

<MichaelC> issue: SCR2 and SCR20 seem to overlap, consider merging

<trackbot> Created ISSUE-11 - SCR2 and SCR20 seem to overlap, consider
merging ; please complete additional details at
http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/track/issues/11/edit .

<MichaelC> issue-11: relates to comment LC-2570
http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/35422/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20110621/2570

<trackbot> ISSUE-11 SCR2 and SCR20 seem to overlap, consider merging
notes added

<Loretta> There appears to be considerable overlap between SCR2 and
SCR20. We have created an Issue
(http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/35422/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20110621/2570)
<http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/35422/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20110621/2570%29>
so that we can reconcile these techniques in our next round of updates.

*RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2570: Technique for a decorative image? as
amended*


      New example for H48: Using ol, ul and dl for lists or groups of links

<awk> Sorry, I need to leave early...

<MichaelC> close action-144

<trackbot> ACTION-144 Investigate a technique using dt, dl in the way
recommended in LC 2540 and other ways closed

*RESOLUTION: Accept New example for H48: Using ol, ul and dl for lists
or groups of links as proposed*

<Loretta>
http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/35422/REC-WCAG20-20081211/2571


    Summary of Action Items

*[NEW]* *ACTION:* james to contact Adam to find out why there is a
diconnect on LC-2569 [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action01]
 
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Michael Cooper
Web Accessibility Specialist
World Wide Web Consortium, Web Accessibility Initiative
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