- From: Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
- Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:00:47 -0600
- To: 'Chris Blouch' <cblouch@aol.com>, 'David MacDonald' <befree@magma.ca>
- Cc: 'Andrew Kirkpatrick' <akirkpat@adobe.com>, w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
- Message-id: <003801c827db$64eb6a50$628e14ac@NC84301>
Actually not quite right. Synchronized media includes a single media type synchronized with interaction. So it isn't just multiple media types that are synchronized. In fact it may be just one media type. Gregg -- ------------------------------ Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. _____ From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:55 AM To: David MacDonald Cc: 'Andrew Kirkpatrick'; 'Gregg Vanderheiden'; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org Subject: Re: : multimedia - Synchronized Media True, one media type in the set leaves nothing else to coordinate with. Of course it depends a bit on what was mean by synchronized. You could just have audio with timeline based controls to keep the playback in sync with the time selected. Is a single media set a case we should be concerned with? CB David MacDonald wrote: Except for our purposes it could not be "one or more media types" it would have to be "more than one media types." And we need the other qualifiers that were in the new version. Synchronized Media A set of media types, required for understanding or use of the complete presentation, coordinated to a common timeline. Note: The set of media types does not include equivalents such as captions, subtitles, or video description. David MacDonald I actually quite like that. It seems elegant to me. access empowers people... ...barriers disable them... www.eramp.com From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 12:21 PM To: David MacDonald Cc: 'Andrew Kirkpatrick'; 'Gregg Vanderheiden'; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org Subject: Re: : multimedia - Synchronized Media Are audio and video the only types? What if I have just a slide show? What about some data visualization widgets? In other words, with only slight changes could the section be generalized to cover future cases? -------- Synchronized Media A set of one or more media types which are synchronized to a common timeline such that interaction is coordinated between the members. -------- Or is the scope of work purposely specific to just cover audio/video? CB David MacDonald wrote: Andrew, I agree that we need the equivalents that you mention. The problem I have is with the wording of the sentence not with what we are trying to say. It seems like we are saying Audio with time-based interactive OR Video with time-based interactive It needs to be clear that it also means: Video with Audio Perhaps we are saying that time based interactive includes audio or video but I don't think this is clear. Perhaps something like this. Synchronized Media Audio with corresponding video displayed at the same time. 2) Audio or video displayed at the same time as other time-based content and/or with time-based interactive component that is required for understanding or use of the complete presentation. Note: The "other time-based content" that the audio or video is synchronized with to meet this definition does not include equivalents such as captions, subtitles, or video description. access empowers people... ...barriers disable them... www.eramp.com From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Kirkpatrick Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:08 AM To: David MacDonald; Gregg Vanderheiden; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org Subject: RE: : multimedia - Synchronized Media I disagree with that assessment. Synchronized media can be lots of things. audio slide shows, audio with interactivity are also very common. I don't think that it is misleading - it is important since these are the key items that require the equivalents that aren't required elsewhere. AWK _____ size=2 width="100%" align=center> From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of David MacDonald Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 9:19 AM To: 'Gregg Vanderheiden'; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org Subject: RE: : multimedia - Synchronized Media The only thing that bothers me about it is the opening. "Audio or video." Most synchronized media (multimedia), I'd say 95%, is Audio synchronized WITH video. So placing the two of them at the front of the sentence with an OR separating them is kind of misleading I'd say. David MacDonald access empowers people... ...barriers disable them... www.eramp.com From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Gregg Vanderheiden Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 2:44 AM To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org Subject: : multimedia - Synchronized Media Gregg -- ------------------------------ Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. _____ NEW PROPOSED DEFINITION Synchronized Media Audio or video displayed at the same time as other time-based content and/or with time-based interactive component that is required for understanding or use of the complete presentation. Note: The "other time-based content" that the audio or video is synchronized with to meet this definition does not include equivalents such as captions, subtitles, or video description. Definition from WCAG synchronized media audio or video synchronized with another format for presenting information and/or with time-based interactive components <http://trace.wisc.edu:8080/mailman/listinfo/>
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