- From: Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
- Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:00:47 -0600
- To: 'Chris Blouch' <cblouch@aol.com>, 'David MacDonald' <befree@magma.ca>
- Cc: 'Andrew Kirkpatrick' <akirkpat@adobe.com>, w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
- Message-id: <003801c827db$64eb6a50$628e14ac@NC84301>
Actually not quite right.
Synchronized media includes a single media type synchronized with
interaction.
So it isn't just multiple media types that are synchronized.
In fact it may be just one media type.
Gregg
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From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf
Of Chris Blouch
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:55 AM
To: David MacDonald
Cc: 'Andrew Kirkpatrick'; 'Gregg Vanderheiden'; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Subject: Re: : multimedia - Synchronized Media
True, one media type in the set leaves nothing else to coordinate with. Of
course it depends a bit on what was mean by synchronized. You could just
have audio with timeline based controls to keep the playback in sync with
the time selected. Is a single media set a case we should be concerned with?
CB
David MacDonald wrote:
Except for our purposes it could not be "one or more media types" it would
have to be "more than one media types." And we need the other qualifiers
that were in the new version.
Synchronized Media
A set of media types, required for understanding or use of the complete
presentation, coordinated to a common timeline.
Note: The set of media types does not include equivalents such as captions,
subtitles, or video description.
David MacDonald
I actually quite like that. It seems elegant to me.
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From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf
Of Chris Blouch
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 12:21 PM
To: David MacDonald
Cc: 'Andrew Kirkpatrick'; 'Gregg Vanderheiden'; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Subject: Re: : multimedia - Synchronized Media
Are audio and video the only types? What if I have just a slide show? What
about some data visualization widgets? In other words, with only slight
changes could the section be generalized to cover future cases?
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Synchronized Media
A set of one or more media types which are synchronized to a common timeline
such that interaction is coordinated between the members.
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Or is the scope of work purposely specific to just cover audio/video?
CB
David MacDonald wrote:
Andrew, I agree that we need the equivalents that you mention. The problem I
have is with the wording of the sentence not with what we are trying to say.
It seems like we are saying
Audio with time-based interactive OR
Video with time-based interactive
It needs to be clear that it also means:
Video with Audio
Perhaps we are saying that time based interactive includes audio or video
but I don't think this is clear. Perhaps something like this.
Synchronized Media
Audio with corresponding video displayed at the same time. 2) Audio or video
displayed at the same time as other time-based content and/or with
time-based interactive component that is required for understanding or use
of the complete presentation.
Note: The "other time-based content" that the audio or video is synchronized
with to meet this definition does not include equivalents such as captions,
subtitles, or video description.
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From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf
Of Andrew Kirkpatrick
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:08 AM
To: David MacDonald; Gregg Vanderheiden; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Subject: RE: : multimedia - Synchronized Media
I disagree with that assessment. Synchronized media can be lots of things.
audio slide shows, audio with interactivity are also very common. I don't
think that it is misleading - it is important since these are the key items
that require the equivalents that aren't required elsewhere.
AWK
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Of David MacDonald
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 9:19 AM
To: 'Gregg Vanderheiden'; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Subject: RE: : multimedia - Synchronized Media
The only thing that bothers me about it is the opening.
"Audio or video." Most synchronized media (multimedia), I'd say 95%, is
Audio synchronized WITH video. So placing the two of them at the front of
the sentence with an OR separating them is kind of misleading I'd say.
David MacDonald
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Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 2:44 AM
To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Subject: : multimedia - Synchronized Media
Gregg
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NEW PROPOSED DEFINITION
Synchronized Media
Audio or video displayed at the same time as other time-based content and/or
with time-based interactive component that is required for understanding or
use of the complete presentation.
Note: The "other time-based content" that the audio or video is synchronized
with to meet this definition does not include equivalents such as captions,
subtitles, or video description.
Definition from WCAG
synchronized media
audio or video synchronized with another format for presenting information
and/or with time-based interactive components
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