- From: Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
- Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:06:49 -0600
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-----Original Message----- From: public-comments-wcag20-request@w3.org [mailto:public-comments-wcag20-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Masayasu Ishikawa Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:25 AM To: public-comments-wcag20@w3.org Subject: On Validity and Accessibility Hello, There seems to be a fierce discussion on Guideline 4.1, in particular on "validity" (whatever it means). I communicated my opinion through internal channel 4 months ago, but it seems it was not reflected to public discussion, so I will resend my opinion for the (public) record. This is my personal opinion, not representing anyone else. Short summary: - I believe WCAG 2.0 should entirely drop "validity" (whatever it means) as a success criterion at any level. Rationale: First of all, I do feel that this discussion has gone a bit out of context. "Validity" (whatever it means) itself is not a goal, it is a possible means for making Web content more accessible. It needs to be evaluated in proper context. The basic Principle "validity" (whatever it means) is being discussed is as follows [1]: Principle 4: Content must be robust enough to work with current and future technologies. The Guideline in question is as follows [2]: Guideline 4.1 Use technologies according to specification. I think these are reasonable principle and guideline (although, ensuring robustness for "future" technologies sounds a bit hard to prove), and "success criteria" should be written to "express what it means to follow the guideline" [3]. WCAG 2.0 further says [3]: The principles, guidelines, and success criteria represent concepts that apply to all Web-based content. They explain what it means for web content to be accessible, regardless of the technology used. They are not specific to HTML, XML, or any other technology. This approach makes it possible to apply WCAG 2.0 to a variety of situations and technologies, including those that do not yet exist. And this is why I believe "validity" (whatever it means) should be entirely droped as a success criterion at any level. I don't think the concept of "validity" (whatever it means) is universally applicable to all Web-based content, and requiring it does not always promote using technologies according to specification. Let's take xml:id as an example. The whole point of xml:id is "to identify IDs in the absence of validation" [4]. It can be used in valid XML documents as well, but document conformance to xml:id doesn't require "validity" [5]. Requiring "validity" in order to use xml:id in an accessible way effectively undermines the usefulness of the xml:id specification. "Validity" should be required for WCAG 2.0 conformance if and only if "validity" is required for conformance to a particular specification in question, i.e. to "use technologies according to specification". For similar reason I would be against introducing "well-formedness" into WCAG 2.0. I fully agree that well-formedness is essential to XML (after all, if it's not well-formed it ain't XML), but still, it is an XML-specific concept, and trying to apply "well-formedness" to non-XML technologies would only lead to confusion. "Validity" may well play a role in "HTML Techniques for WCAG 2.0" [6], for example, and should there be an "XML Techniques" document, "well- formedness" would absolutely be a requirement, but technology-specific requirements should be better addressed in technology-specific techniques document, not in WCAG 2.0 itself. Instead of arguing over technology-dependent concepts like "validity" and "well-formedness", I think WCAG 2.0 should promote "conformance" to specification. In many cases, even if "validity" is a requirement for a particular technology, it is most likely not the only requirement for conformance. A good example of "valid but not conformant" case is the 30 June 2005 Working Draft of "General Techniques for WCAG 2.0" itself. All documents lacked the required namespace declaration for XHTML on the root element, thereby violated the third requirement for XHTML 1.0 conformance, even though most of them are DTD-valid (see [7] for details). Omitting namespace declaration can sometimes cause more serious trouble than mere validity errors. I don't think WCAG 2.0 should arbitrarily "subset" conformance requirements and "exaggerate" one of them (such as "validity") as if other requirements were less important. I admit that it is not always easy to fully evaluate conformance, but working around it won't facilitate accessibility. [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-WCAG20-20050630/#robust [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-WCAG20-20050630/#use-spec [3] http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-WCAG20-20050630/#overview-design-principles [4] http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/REC-xml-id-20050909/#abstract [5] http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/REC-xml-id-20050909/#xmlid-conformance [6] http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-WCAG20-HTML-TECHS-20050630/ [7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2005Sep/0002 Regards, -- Masayasu Ishikawa / mimasa@w3.org W3C - World Wide Web Consortium
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