- From: Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
- Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 17:41:08 -0500
- To: "'Tim Boland'" <frederick.boland@nist.gov>
- Cc: <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
- Message-Id: <20050826224012.308081CC379@eq1.spamarrest.com>
Hi Tim, answers below marked GV: Gregg -- ------------------------------ Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr. Director - Trace R & D Center University of Wisconsin-Madison _____ From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Tim Boland Subject: Re: WCAG Guidelines and Support DocumentsV2.doc Would each SC have at least one "sufficient" technique (for satisfying the SC) associated with it (in other words, would every Guide Document include at each one such "sufficient" technique - referring to item #3 in Overview)? GV: That is the plan. Will put it in explicitly if it is not there. (What we have is structure rather than procedure which is why it probably doesn't appear.) Also, how is it objectively determined (measured) to be "known" to be sufficient" for satisfying a SC (referring to third paragraph following "Guide Documents" heading? Is such a process of determination documented anywhere? I was not able to locate such documentation. GV: Known and documented - is determined by whether it is in our docs. "believed to be sufficient" determinations will be made by consensus of the WG. Finally, if content is "available" in a form that would "satisfy" a SC (referring to third sentence, third paragraph following "Tests" heading), how would such availability and satisfaction be objectively determined, if not via a "sufficient" technique? GV: The author can use another technique that may be sufficient - but was not known or documented. A technique does not need to be known by WG to be sufficient. The implication to me when considering the second and third sentences together in the third paragraph following "Tests" heading is that some other measure of satisfaction would be used for a form of available content besides use of a "sufficient" technique. If this is a correct assumption on my part, what would the other measure be? GV: Any author can deem any technique they think of as being sufficient. If an author makes a claim of conformance that is in fact what they have done. They are claiming that what they have done is sufficient to conform. GV: Now if they have poor judgment and it isn't really sufficient, then someone may call them on it. In that case they would be in better shape if they had the W3C judgment as what they followed than if they just relied on their own. But even our judgments could be called into question in a court and overturned. We do not make laws. Just a standard. And only our Guideline is normative. GV: Note that the version of our Guide Docs that is available when the WCAG 2.0 is approved will have special significance since it was available for those who approved the Guidelines when the guidelines were approved. Does this help? Does I apologize in advance for any misunderstandings or misinterpretations on my part, as I read through this document rather quickly. GV: Not at all. Good questions. In fact I'm keeping these to use to add explanation to the docs as we move them forward toward approval. Thanks and best wishes, Tim Boland NIST
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