- From: <Becky_Gibson@notesdev.ibm.com>
- Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 07:46:12 -0400
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<Yvette> However, I see two problems with the technique. First, the audience you create this technique for (high contrast users) tend to have large font settings. I once had a student that could only read web pages with a sans serif font of 60 pts or more. With font settings like these, your technique will fail. One of the fundamental concepts of an accessible website to me is that you do not make any assumptions about the user's settings. Any technique that doesn't hold up under these conditions should be reconsidered, I think. </Yvette> I am curious how people adjust the size in the browser? In IE the only way I can find to adjust the text size beyond what I get by just switching Windows into high contrast mode is to create my own style sheet - am I missing some other technique? Changing the display appearance in Windows does not give me the option to change the default font size for applications. Setting High contrast mode in Windows does set IE's font size to "largest" but this doesn't give 60 pts. In Firefox I can set the default font size. And, this technique will fail (there will be overlap of the character based heading with the paragraph text) unless I turn off CSS - then everything works okay. Which to me seems like a reasonable work around? <Yvette> What _are_ the problems high contrast users face with images of text with ALT-text? It seems to me that turning the images off in your browser would render the ALT-text in your preferred font size, which would make them accessible for this group, or not? Or do you feel that this is too cumbersome to ask of a high contrast user? The reason I ask is that it would be a lot easier to understand for developers if the ALT-text technique covers all the accessibility problems of images of text for all the audiences. </Yvette> Again I see browser issues with alt text. If I turn off images in Firefox and Opera, the alt text is rendered in the preferred font size. But, in IE it does not display in a larger size, thus making it difficult to read. Also, I didn't assume that high contrast users would have images turned off - is that common? My concern with using an image and alt text for "graphical text" is that if high contrast users do not have images turned off, the image text may not be readable because of the colors used or the size of the image. Unfortunately, I don't think we are ever going to be able to provide techniques that work in all browsers for all users with any settings. So, I think providing a variety of techniques that work without modification in many settings is helpful. And, it is important to note the caveats and known issues in different user agents for the techniques that we do provide. I agree that just requiring alt-text on images is the simplest technique. But, for people wanting to create highly visual sites, this technique might help them to make it more accessible. -becky Becky Gibson Web Accessibility Architect IBM Emerging Internet Technologies 5 Technology Park Drive Westford, MA 01886 Voice: 978 399-6101; t/l 333-6101 Email: gibsonb@us.ibm.com
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