- From: Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
- Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 01:05:15 -0500
- To: <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
I think that is good. And I think you expand an abbreviation when you spell it all out. So I think that works too. I do wonder what the difference between users with and without disabilities is on this one. Is there? We should spell it out in the examples. Or else this is just a general usability issue. Gregg -- ------------------------------ Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr. Director - Trace R & D Center University of Wisconsin-Madison -----Original Message----- From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Jim Thatcher Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 5:31 PM To: 'John M Slatin'; 'Jens Meiert'; michaelc@watchfire.com Cc: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org Subject: RE: [techs] Acronyms and abbreviations Modifying John's suggestion slightly, how about - Provide the expansion of each acronym or abbreviation, in context or in markup, the first time the acronym or abbreviation appears in any form that users experience as a "page." Substituting "expansion" for "full meaning;" the latter being way too much. But "expansion" not usually applied to an abbreviation, is it? Jim Accessibility, What Not to do: http://jimthatcher.com/whatnot.htm. Web Accessibility Tutorial: http://jimthatcher.com/webcourse1.htm. -----Original Message----- From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of John M Slatin Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 12:23 PM To: Jens Meiert; michaelc@watchfire.com Cc: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org Subject: RE: [techs] Acronyms and abbreviations OK-- how does this sound as a practical suggestion for What to Do Today? - Provide the full meaning of each acronym or abbreviation, in context or in markup, the first time the acronym or abbreviation appears in any form that users experience as a "page." John "Good design is accessible design." Please note our new name and URL! John Slatin, Ph.D. Director, Accessibility Institute University of Texas at Austin FAC 248C 1 University Station G9600 Austin, TX 78712 ph 512-495-4288, f 512-495-4524 email jslatin@mail.utexas.edu web http://www.utexas.edu/research/accessibility/ -----Original Message----- From: Jens Meiert [mailto:jens.meiert@erde3.com] Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 12:18 pm To: John M Slatin; michaelc@watchfire.com Cc: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org Subject: RE: [techs] Acronyms and abbreviations > In principle, I agree that every occurrence of an acronym or > abbreviation should be tagged with the appropriate element. > > In practice, however, what ends up happening is that people using > screen readers/talking browsers never actually hear the acronym or > abbreviation [...] Sounds like a draw anyway, doesn't it? What should we do and recommend now, is there the need to update the corresponding GL items? -- I really challenge this issue since I just had this discussion occupationally (again), and there are of course benefits as well as problems linked with it, as also pointed out by both of you. Jens. -- Jens Meiert Interface Architect (IxD) http://meiert.com/
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