- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:32:12 -0500 (EST)
- To: Patrizia Bertini <patrizia@patriziabertini.it>
- Cc: Web Content Guidelines <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
As a linguist I think that since all acronyms are "abbreviations" in the generic sense of the term, but that not all abbreviations are acronyms in any sense, it is not wrong to call the whole lot abbreviations and put them in an element called "abbr". As a web professional I think it is not wrong to use "accortado" as the element name either. I do think there is value in looking at the ruby element [1], introduced in XHTML 1.1 and currently included in XHTML 2, which is designed to provide the kind of expansion that we want for abbreviations of various kinds, and which allows simple styling to give us the different choices we would like to have for presenting these things. If there is some reason not to use ruby itself, then I think its structure is still a very good model for any new element that does what we want. [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/REC-ruby-20010531/ Cheers Chaals On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Patrizia Bertini wrote: > >Il giorno 10/dic/03, alle 22:27, John M Slatin ha scritto: > >> > >> abbr title="By the way">BTW</abbr>, I wonder how the linguists feel >> about making acronym and abbreviation synonymous? >> >> John >> > >Not very well in fact... as a Linguist, i don't agree in this >assimilation. one thing is an acronym, an other thing is an >abbreviation. >one way to joint these two element would to find out a new way to >express them like an element like <expand text>, in these case, if we >talk about expanding and / or explain an abbreviation and acronym i >think it could be ok, but we can't call an acronym as an abbreviation. >an LTD. is not like an Inc. for instance and the meaning that these >two words express are pretty different. > >is formally wrong to use only the abbr elemt, better to find out a >third way IMVHO. > >M2p -- pat > > Charles McCathieNevile http://www.w3.org/People/Charles tel: +61 409 134 136 SWAD-E http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/Europe fax(france): +33 4 92 38 78 22 Post: 21 Mitchell street, FOOTSCRAY Vic 3011, Australia or W3C, 2004 Route des Lucioles, 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France
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