- From: Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
- Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 00:16:26 -0600
- To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
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Couple of problems in the way we were thinking of doing 4.1 Problem 1: If we create a list of things to review against and put it into normative section, then we cannot add to the list. So are we saying that those things are the ONLY things that make content simpler to understand-and that they do not need to consider anything else? We can't sat etc. on the list to indicate that there may be more because then the success criteria stops being testable (since we are requiring that they review against a list that we don't provide them all of. Problem 2: In trying to create a list of individual items, I kept running into the problem that they looked like success criteria. Even if we start off with a sentence which simply says, "You must think about the following things," if the list that follows reads like: * One idea per sentence * Words are familiar to intended audience * Etc. The items end up looking not like suggestions, but success criteria. I tried rewording them as questions, but they, again, ended up looking like success criteria. * Is there only one idea per paragraph? * Are the words and structures familiar to the intended audience? * Etc. If we release a set of guidelines in this form with a bulleted list of items in the "success criteria" area, I'm afraid it will be widely misunderstood and misconstrued to be a list of criteria. I would be willing to bet anybody a very large amount of money that we will immediately see test tools which try to (if they possibly could) test compliance by testing each of these questions rather than testing the "did you do a review". The only thing I can think we might do about this is to go back to the original plan which simply had the requirement for review up above and sample lists of things to review below. Or maybe make them very clearly general things to be looked at and not specific things to be achieved. Not sure how to do that. Sorry to post a problem with no suggested solution. Gregg -- ------------------------------ NOTE: TRACE IS MOVING TO NEW ADDRESS (Same Email and Phone) Trace R & D Center 2107 Engineering Centers Bldg. 1550 Engineering Drive MADISON, WI 53706 ------------------------ Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. Professor - Human Factors Depts of Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr. Director - Trace R & D Center University of Wisconsin-Madison Gv@trace.wisc.edu < <mailto:Gv@trace.wisc.edu> mailto:Gv@trace.wisc.edu>, < <http://trace.wisc.edu/> http://trace.wisc.edu/> FAX 608/262-8848 For a list of our listserves send "lists" to listproc@trace.wisc.edu < <mailto:listproc@trace.wisc.edu> mailto:listproc@trace.wisc.edu>
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