- From: john_slatin <john_slatin@forum.utexas.edu>
- Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 12:20:39 -0600
- To: "'Lee Roberts'" <leeroberts@roserockdesign.com>, john_slatin <john_slatin@forum.utexas.edu>, "'Charles McCathieNevile'" <charles@w3.org>
- Cc: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Lee, I only brought up US law as additional justification for agreeing with Charles' point. He had mentioned that, as written, the checkpoint would not work in Australia for legal reasons, and I was simply trying to support that-- I had no intention of m aking US law the standard. Quite the contrary. Sorry for the confusion! John John Slatin, Ph.D. Director, Institute for Technology & Learning University of Texas at Austin 1 University Station G9600 FAC 248C Austin, TX 78712 ph 512-495-4288, f 512-495-4524 email jslatin@mail.utexas.edu web http://www.ital.utexas.edu -----Original Message----- From: Lee Roberts [mailto:leeroberts@roserockdesign.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 1:46 pm To: 'john_slatin'; 'Charles McCathieNevile' Cc: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org Subject: RE: FW: Checkpoint 1.2 - handling comments I'm a little confused as to why we brought up US law. What is the purpose of relating to only the US laws? Many other countries have laws regarding accessibility for the disabled and not as soft-hearted to businesses as the US views. So, someone please explain why we want to become soft-hearted on some issues and not so soft-hearted on other issues. Thanks, Lee -----Original Message----- From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of john_slatin Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 5:21 AM To: 'Charles McCathieNevile'; john_slatin Cc: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org Subject: RE: FW: Checkpoint 1.2 - handling comments I agree with Charles. U.S. law provides for exceptions in cases of "undue burden," but the standard for "undue burden" is quite high and, in my understanding, not usually tied only to cost. John -----Original Message----- From: Charles McCathieNevile [mailto:charles@w3.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 11:13 PM To: john_slatin Cc: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org Subject: Re: FW: Checkpoint 1.2 - handling comments I propose that for this checkpoint the qualification be removed. Whether soeone has the money to provide captions and descritions (and therefore actually does it) is entirely a matter for policy makers to determine. The accessiblility need doesn't change at all, but in some cases it may be a considered policy decision to provide the option of claiming unjustifiable hardship as a reason not to meet the accessibility need. howeer in other cases this is not the case. Australian law requires that government provided services are accessible if it is technically feasible, and high cost is explicitly not allowed as grounds for not doing it. If this exclusion is kept then this checkpoint will not be suitable for policy in Australia and would need to be explicitly called out as such in Australian government information, whereas if it is left out the existing exclusions in policy that cover undue hardship will still mean it makes sense in other jurisdictions as well. cheers Charles On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, john_slatin wrote: >>====== >>Comment #8 >>Ian Jacobs, 06 Oct 2002 [5] >>(level 2 success criterion #3) "for all live broadcasts that are >>professionally produced." The term "professional" is subject to much >>interpretation. Does this mean "high quality" or "for money"? >> >>Proposal #8 >>reword to: provide captions and audio descriptions for live, >>commercially produced broadcasts. >>Rationale: From what I remember, we were trying to target live >>broadcasts where it is feasible (i.e., the producer could afford) to >>provide real-time captioning. Also, there are several comments about >>writing criteria in active voice, so I attempted that, also. >> >>==========
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