- From: Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
- Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 19:04:19 -0500
- To: "'Wendy A Chisholm'" <wendy@w3.org>, w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
- Message-id: <000501c29bf1$fdc672e0$b409960a@TOSHIBATABLET>
Comments below marked GV: Thanks again for all the work Wendy. (again - items not commented on are removed) Gregg -- ------------------------------ Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. ========== Proposal #4 Accept John Slatin's rewording of the definition of audio description [2]: audio descriptions are equivalents of visual information from actions, body language, graphics, and scene changes. Audio descriptions are voiced (either by a human or a speech synthesizer) and synchronized with the multimedia presentation. GV: add NOTE: per checkpoint 1.1, the visual information should also be provided in text. ========== Proposal #5 Accept John Slatin's rewording of the Note that appears in the Benefits [2]: Note: Time-dependent presentations requiring people to use a single sense to follow two or more things at the same time may present significant barriers to some users. Depending on the nature of the of presentation, it may be possible to avoid scenarios where, for example, a deaf user would be required to watch an action on the screen and read the captions at the same time. However, this would not be achievable for live broadcasts (e.g. a football game). Where possible, provide content so that it does not require tracking multiple simultaneous events with the same sense, or give the user the ability to effectively control different media signals independently. GV: suggest we change last sentence to end. "or give the user the ability to freeze the video so that captions can be read without missing the video." It is not necessary to make this general. Information is not presented auditorally simultaneously. It is a visual problem only. (Simultaneous tactile???) Allowing independent control of media streams raises synchronization questions. ========== Proposal #6 Accept Andi Snow-Weaver's new example [3]. need to clarify that this is not an example of minimum level conformance, but of level 3. do we need to label other examples? Example 4: a cooking video (level 3). A cooking video shows a chef preparing a recipe. The chef describes the ingredients and the process for each step and then performs the step. In this manner, deaf users can read the voice captions first and then watch the demonstration. GV: I suggest we remove this example. Most all cooking shows can be watched with captions without problem. I think this is too much discussion of something which does not arise very much. I think we should keep it brief. ========== Comment #7 Ian Jacobs, 06 Oct 2002 [5] Normative exclusions appear in provisions 2, 4, and after 6. (refer to comments on exclusions and inclusions) Proposal #7 No change proposed at this time. Rationale: Need more research. It is not clear that moving all of the exceptions to one spot will make the success criteria easier to understand. It could decrease understandability if people do not easily or correctly identify the exceptions with the criteria. The exceptions might also be ignored if not included with the criteria. GV: I agree that the exceptions should stay near what they refer to. Otherwise the success criteria can easily be lifted without the exceptions and create much confusion. ========== Comment #8 Ian Jacobs, 06 Oct 2002 [5] (level 2 success criterion #3) "for all live broadcasts that are professionally produced." The term "professional" is subject to much interpretation. Does this mean "high quality" or "for money"? Proposal #8 reword to: provide captions and audio descriptions for live, commercially produced broadcasts. Rationale: From what I remember, we were trying to target live broadcasts where it is feasible (i.e., the producer could afford) to provide real-time captioning. Also, there are several comments about writing criteria in active voice, so I attempted that, also. GV: in making it active it also became imperative. It needs to stay declarative. I think that would be Captions and audio descriptions are provided for live commercially produced broadcasts. But a grammarian should check this. ========== ========== Comment #13 SAP (via Audrey Weinland), 31 Oct 2002 [9] level 3 success criterion #1: How is {a text document (a "script")...} different from a transcript? This would be much easier to meet than the current minimum criteria Proposal #13 Reword level 3 success criterion #1 as: provide a text document that merges all audio descriptions and captions into a single transcript (in WCAG 1.0 referred to as a "collated text transcript"). Rationale: This attempts to clarify what goes into the text document and for people familiar with WCAG 1.0 uses the old terminology. GV: I think we should stick with script. Transcript is almost universally interpreted as the audio information only. I think we could say "into a collated script (which provides dialog, important sounds and important visual information in a single text document)." Also, what is really desired I think, is a script, with all important visual information, not just the visual information that could be crammed in between the dialog. Though I think the above suggested wording is sufficient. ==========
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