- From: Andi Snow-Weaver <andisnow@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:23:32 -0600
- To: aardit@voa.gov
- Cc: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org, seeman@netvision.net.il, leeroberts@roserockdesign.com
Avi, As promised, here are some specific comments on your proposal for success criteria for 4.1. This is a difficult topic to tackle and you, Lisa, and Lee are to be commended for attempting it. I have copied the text from your post to the mailing list and followed each item with my comments, prefaced by AS. >As you read below, note that Level 1 and Level 2 are written in different formats. Which format do you prefer? The items at Level 1 are phrased as statements. The items at Level 2 are phrased as questions. AS: I prefer the format of level 1 because I think it is easier to convert this format to test cases. >You will have met Checkpoint 4.1 at the Minimum Level if you based your answers on deliberation of each item and the reasons for any exceptions. AS: I'm not sure what this means. It sounds like I meet the criteria if I consider each item. If the web page doesn't meet an item, all I have to do is explain why I chose not to meet it. So, if the web page doesn't conform to a particular requirement but I explain why I didn't, then the web page conforms to the checkpoint? >Generally speaking: AS: Remove this. At the minimum level and Level 2, we should be providing specific, testable requirements, not general guidelines. >1. Your site lists in metadata the cognitive skills or reading age that a user would need to understand the important content. AS: I have three issues with this one: 1. I disagree with any requirement for statements of conformance or support at the minimum level. 2. Even if this is moved to level 2, it should not be required to be in metadata. None of the conformance statements for the other checklists are required to be in metadata. 3. Web page authors should not be required to be knowledgeable about the cognitive skills required to read their content. The success criteria should state explicitly what we want them to do and any conformance statements should be related to these criteria. >2. Page titles are accurate and unique. AS: What do we mean by accurate and how do you test that page titles are accurate? Requiring them to be unique within a site is okay. >3. The words and language structure are probably familiar to disabled people within your intended audience. <An informative section could list the various sorts of disabilities that might be found in example audiences. For instance, the audience of a professional journal might include people with learning disabilities or semantic-pragmatic disorder or first-stage Alzheimer's.> AS: This is too restrictive for the minimum level which should be applicable to all sites. It is also too subjective. If we have a specific recommendation to make about words and language structure, we should only do so at level 3 or as an advisory recommendation. >4. Terms that should be familiar to the intended audience are favored over terms that are less likely to be understood. AS: Every person who writes something is doing it to be understood and will think that they meet this criteria. I don't see any value add to putting this in the guidelines. >5. Sentences are limited to a single idea. <Informative sections could list values specific to languages and disabilities> AS: Does this mean you can't use compound sentences like "The dog is black and the cat is white." or "I wanted to buy a Porsche but it was too expensive"? This is too restrictive for the minimum level. I believe this is more appropriate for level 3 or as an advisory recommendation. >6. Paragraphs are limited to a single idea. AS: This is a requirement of good writing. Editors and English teachers can usually make this assessment but it would be difficult, if not impossible, for most of us. I think this is too restrictive for the minimum level. It is more appropriate for level 3 or as an advisory recommendation. >7. Sentences are limited to lengths that disabled users within your intended audience would probably consider reasonable. AS: This is too subjective for the minimum level. We could recommend a maximum, but I think it is an advisory recommendation, not a requirement for conformance. >8. Definitions/explanations are embedded or linked when the content introduces new concepts or terminology. AS: Is this "new" to the audience or "new" to the page? This sounds like one of the fundamental principals of designing web content. I think it is too restrictive for the minimum level and probably cannot be quantified sufficiently to be more than an advisory recommendation. >9. Disabled users within your audience are likely to understand any abbreviations or acronyms. AS: How is the author to know? Is there an objective requirement we can articulate wrt abbreviations and acronyms? How about "All abbreviations and acronyms are links to a glossary that defines them"? This is too restrictive for the minimum level. Level 2 might be okay. If I have my address on a page, do I have to make St. (Street) and TX (Texas) links? >10. Users are able to find additional information to aid their understanding. AS: What specifically are we requiring here that is different from #8 and #9? >11. There is support to provide information in simpler forms. AS: Does this mean the content is available to assistive technologies that can render it in simpler forms? If so, we should figure out what those requirements are and that should be the success criteria. >12. Summaries are provided when these would aid understanding. AS: Don't summaries always aid understanding for some people? We could recommend specific cases where summaries are recommended as a Level 3 requirement or advisory recommendation. >13. Headings and linked text are unique and make sense when read out of context. AS: Okay for Level 1 or 2. >You will have met Checkpoint 4.1 at Level 2 if you based your answers on deliberation of each item and the reasons for any exceptions. AS: Same comment as for Level 1 >Generally speaking: AS: Same comment as for Level 1 >1. Have those responsible for the content made an effort to learn about ways to communicate with people with cognitive and other disabilities? AS: What is the requirement here? Is there a certification we are requiring of web authors? >2. Are names and labels used consistently within a document? AS: I'm not sure what we mean by "names and labels" in a document? Is it terminology? >3. Are noun phrases of more than three nouns avoided? AS: Does this apply to languages other than English? Even for English, this should be Level 3. >4. Are sentence structures that increase understanding (such as active voice in English and other languages) favored over those that reduce understanding? <Examples in techniques> AS: Using the word "favored" makes this too subjective. I'm not sure we can come up with a specific recommendation (like active voice in English) that applies across languages. >5. Are verb tenses kept simple? AS: I don't know what a simple verb tense is. Does it apply across languages? >6. Is the order of information logical? AS: This might be an advisory recommendation but is too subjective for success criteria. >7. Are more-common words favored over less-common words? AS: This might be an advisory recommendation but is too subjective for success criteria. >8. Are choices and options clearly explained to users? AS: Is this a requirement for context sensitive help? >9. Are instructions or required actions explained step-by-step? AS: Is this a requirement that instructions be in bulleted or numbered lists? If so, we should say that but it should be Level 3 or advisory. >10. Is it clear to users when they are being addressed? AS: Not sure what the requirement is here. >11. Are language shortcuts avoided in cases where they might reduce understanding? AS: Not sure what the requirement is here. >12. Are options to get more information clearly labeled? AS: Linked text is a way to get more information. Does this require that all links must also have a duplicate "Click here for more information" type of link? >13. Are disabled users within your intended audiences likely to understand any slang or idiomatic language? AS: How is the author to know? Either articulate a specific requirement with regard to slang or idomatic language or remove. >14. Are disabled users within your intended audience likely to understand any jargon? AS: How is the author to know? Either articulate a specific requirement with regard to jargon or remove. >15. Is the writing style concrete enough or abstract enough for disabled users within the intended audience? AS: How is the author to know? Is there something specific we can recommend as an advisory recommendation? i.e. don't use metaphors, don't use satire, etc. >16. Is the content unambiguous? AS: Not sure what the requirement is here. >17. Is key information highlighted with proper markup? AS: We already have a requirement for this in checkpoint 1.3 >18. Is goal-action structure used for menu prompts? AS: I know what object-action is but not goal-action. What type of menu prompts are we talking about? >19. Are defaults provided, and is it easy to re-establish them? AS: A good requirement for forms. >20. Do sentences that explain actions and conditions list the conditions first? AS: Advisory Recommendation, not Level 2 >21. Would long paragraphs be easier to understand if they were rewritten as vertical lists of items (especially in the case of instructions)? AS: We already have something that attempts to cover instructions (Level 2 #9). Unless we have another specific scenario where we want to recommend that bulleted or numbered lists be used, this should be an advisory recommendation. >22. Is a two-step "select and confirm" process used to reduce accidental selections for critical functions? AS: A good requirement for forms >23. Are there clear instructions about how to modify selections in critical functions (such as how to delete an item from a shopping cart)? AS: We already have a requirement (Level 2 #8) that covers explaining choices and options. >24. Is calculation assistance provided to reduce the need to calculate? AS: A good requirement >25. Is the removal of information that is unhelpful to disabled users supported? AS: How would the author know what would be helpful? >You will have met Checkpoint 4.1 at Level 3 if at least one of the following is true: >1. New material is tested with potential users for ease of accessibility. AS: I think this is an advisory recommendation for the entire guidelines, not a conformance requirement for any one specific checkpoint. >2. A controlled language is used. >3. Support for conversion into symbolic languages has been given. AS: Can we articulate specific requirements here? Andi andisnow@us.ibm.com IBM Accessibility Center (512) 838-9903, http://www.ibm.com/able Internal Tie Line 678-9903, http://w3.austin.ibm.com/~snsinfo
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