RE: 1.3 provision (was in 3.1)

Cynthia's revision of my proposed revision works for me.  Here's what she
wrote:
1) The following can be derived programmatically (i.e. through assistive
technology compatible markup or data model) from the content without
interpreting presentation.
    a) Structural components of diagrams
 
 
John Slatin, Ph.D.
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University of Texas at Austin
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-----Original Message-----
From: Cynthia Shelly [mailto:cyns@microsoft.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 1:42 pm
To: john_slatin; gv@trace.wisc.edu; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Subject: RE: 1.3 provision (was in 3.1)


That's much better.  How about making it parallel to the level 1 success
criteria?
 
1) The following can be derived programmatically (i.e. through assistive
technology compatible markup or data model) from the content without
interpreting presentation.
    a) Structural components of diagrams

-----Original Message-----
From: john_slatin [mailto:john_slatin@forum.utexas.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 9:17 AM
To: 'gv@trace.wisc.edu'; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Subject: RE: 1.3 provision (was in 3.1)


Re: "... expose the structure in accessible form":
 
I see two problems with this wording:
1. "expose the structure" assumes fairly sophisticated knowledge of
technical concepts-- i.e., this won't mean much to non-geeks.
2. "... in an accessible form" seems circular, since the point of the
checkpoint is to facilitate accessibility.
 
So how about something like the following:
"Structural components of diagrams can be recognized/used by assistive
technology"?
 
John
 
 
John Slatin, Ph.D.
Director, Institute for Technology & Learning
University of Texas at Austin
FAC 248C, Mail code G9600
Austin, TX 78712
ph 512-495-4288, f 512-495-4524
email jslatin@mail.utexas.edu <mailto:jslatin@mail.utexas.edu> 
web http://www.ital.utexas.edu <http://www.ital.utexas.edu/> 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Gregg Vanderheiden [mailto:gv@trace.wisc.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 10:33 am
To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Subject: 1.3 provision (was in 3.1)



We currently have an item in the new 1.3  level 2 that reads

 

"1. [diagrams that have structure can be accessed by the user.]"

 

It actually isn't worded very well  and is hard to understand

 

I suggest it be worded something like 

 

"Any diagrams that have structure expose the structure in accessible form. "

(is "accessible form"  clear enough?)


Thanks. 

Gregg

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Gregg Vanderheiden Ph.D.
Ind Engr - Biomed - Trace, Univ of Wis
gv@trace.wisc.edu