- From: <gian@stanleymilford.com.au>
- Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 08:43:23 +1100
- TO: charles@w3.org
- CC: goliver@accease.com, w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
- Message-Id: <H00000e000404cba.1016574202.tux.sofcom.com.au@MHS>
Well using this theory, then I doubt that people having English as a second language can be defined as a disability - isn't it more a 'problem people encounter in life'? > -----Original Message----- > From: charles [mailto:charles@w3.org] > Sent: Tuesday, 19 March 2002 12:42 AM > To: Gian Sampson-Wild > Cc: goliver; w3c-wai-gl > Subject: RE: 'Non-economic' rationale for backward compatibility > > > Well, in your own work you should be avancing whatever is relevant > information for your clients, and typically that would go beyond "pure > accessibility". > > For WCAG, the requirement is that this helps people solve the > problems that > they encounter which are related to a disability. This > doesn't normally > include all the problems people encounter in life - there are > bureaucracies > taht are difficult to deal with for everyone, poorly designed > systems that > cause real problems for people with and without disabilities in equal > measure, and things that are problems because someone has a > disability. It is > the last category of things that WCAG is designed to address. > > So an argument based purely on "people ca't afford to upgrade" isn't a > sufficiently strong one. It needs to explain why people can't > afford to > upgrade, and what level of support people do have - do we > need to cater for > Netscape 1? For people using email-based access to the Web? > (People are still > doing this, for good reasons) Do we need to assumme that people have > telnet-only browser access and need to work with very old > browsers, or that > they may have text-only systems, but have modern SSH and XML capable > software? > > This is an open issue for WCAG, and one that won't go away on its own. > > cheers > > chaals > > On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 gian@stanleymilford.com.au wrote: > > With regards to below. > > If this argument holds true, then why can't Graham and I use the > economic rationale to enforce backwards compatibility? > Surely if a site > doesn't work for someone because that someone can't afford > the latest > hardware/software/etc, then we would fail the making things work for > people. > > > > Graham > > 3. It takes time for non-English (internationalised) > > versions of software to be produced. > > > > Gian > > I don't think this falls under our charter. > > > > Chaals > > well, our charter requires us to make things work for people. > > It doesn't say > > "for people who speak english", and we would fail to get past > > the i18n review > > in last call if we don't recognise this. > > > > chaals > > > > > > > > > > -- > Charles McCathieNevile http://www.w3.org/People/Charles > phone: +61 409 134 136 > W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI > fax: +33 4 92 38 78 22 > Location: 21 Mitchell street FOOTSCRAY Vic 3011, Australia > (or W3C INRIA, Route des Lucioles, BP 93, 06902 Sophia > Antipolis Cedex, France) > > >
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