- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 05:45:50 -0500 (EST)
- To: <goliver@accease.com>
- cc: <GV@TRACE.WISC.EDU>, <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Basically I agree with Graham, but I don't think we can really sort this out without resolution on baseline requirements. It seems that at the moment people have a variety ofvalid reasons for not using browsers that support scripting - for example that in order to do so they would have to move from a free and workable system to an expensive combination of assistive technologies and system software. The fact that almost all browsers are free is not that relevant I don't think - people need to use system software that in some cases costs a significant amount of money. On the one hand this might not be much of a barrierin Denmark - the government will buy the required systems. In other countries it represents a significant portion of the average wage, something which itself isn't available to everyone. cheers Charles McCN On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 goliver@accease.com wrote: Me between the *'s <snip> 1 – I think the checkpoint could be worded more straightforwardly. Perhaps Checkpoint 4.4 -- Ensure that content is usable with default user agent settings and no plug-ins. *The wording doesn't work for me, it's too loose + difficulty of defining 'default'* Checkpoint 4.4 Ensure that all content is readable and all function (other than artistic) is preserved when stylistic and scripting technologies are not supported or are turned off. *This is closer for me, but think it needs some tweaking. For example, see Jim Thatcher's page [1] on Scripts and Applets and Section 508. I would agree with his analysis of a fly-over menu 'If content is exposed with the onMouseOver event for a link, then for your site to meet the Section 508 requirement for scripts, that content must be available elsewhere, preferable prominently displayed on the page that is opened by that link.' To me this is accessible. The functionality is not preserved (it can't be) but there is 'equivalent availability'. So I would prefer something like *Ensure that all content remains available when stylistic and scripting technologies are not supported or are turned off.* Cheers Graham [1] - http://www.jimthatcher.com/webcoursea.htm AccEase Ltd : Making on-line information accessible Phone : +64 9 846 6995 Email : goliver@accease.com -- Charles McCathieNevile http://www.w3.org/People/Charles phone: +61 409 134 136 W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI fax: +1 617 258 5999 Location: 21 Mitchell street FOOTSCRAY Vic 3011, Australia (or W3C INRIA, Route des Lucioles, BP 93, 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France)
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