- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:17:14 -0500 (EST)
- To: Geoff Deering <gdeering@acslink.net.au>
- cc: <kynn-eda@idyllmtn.com>, Slaydon Eugenia <ESlaydon@beacontec.com>, <gian@stanleymilford.com.au>, <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Having pictures of the text and the real text should meet the requirement (having pictures and alt text does not) but technically fails the checkpoint, and in my very personal opinion is ugly enough to be worth avoiding... chaals On Sat, 19 Jan 2002, Geoff Deering wrote: This is basically my question too. As I read Checkpoint 3.1; "When an appropriate markup language exists, use markup rather than images to convey information" (Priority 2). I take this to mean "use markup rather than gifs, jpegs, etc when representing anything in text form". And this could be expanded to use SVG instead of GIFs & JPGs (when the technology is mature and widespread enough). That's how I interpret this checkpoint and priority 2 compliance. Would appreciate an enlightened view on this to correct me if this is not so. Geoff Deering -----Original Message----- From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of kynn-eda@idyllmtn.com Sent: Wednesday, 16 January 2002 6:30 PM To: Charles McCathieNevile Cc: Slaydon Eugenia; gian@stanleymilford.com.au; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org Subject: Re: rationalize presentation [was: Use consistent presentation] > I think we agree. I didn't mean to say "don't use navigation icons", I meant > to say "use navigation icons, and text. But for the text, use real, styled > text, not gif or jpg images of text". > cheers > Charles > > On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Slaydon, Eugenia wrote: > I still have to disagree. Navigation icons provide visual clues that CSS > just can't duplicate yet. Saying that they are inappropriate in an > accessible page is a harsh statement. I fully support your first statement > of providing both icons and text labels. I feel that it best supports > accessibility for *all* users. Charles, what about using navigation icons which contain gif or jpeg images of text, and also supplying text links as well? The quality of text effects you can get in CSS is woefully limited, thus reducing the types of designs available to use. However, having both highly stylized gif/jpeg text _and_ text-only, scalable-size text links lets you have your cake and eat it too, if we are talking about a single UI/document model. --Kynn -- Charles McCathieNevile http://www.w3.org/People/Charles phone: +61 409 134 136 W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI fax: +1 617 258 5999 Location: 21 Mitchell street FOOTSCRAY Vic 3011, Australia (or W3C INRIA, Route des Lucioles, BP 93, 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France)
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