- From: Lisa Seeman <seeman@netvision.net.il>
- Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 06:03:48 +0200
- To: GV@TRACE.WISC.EDU, w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
One of the project I am working on hear is a platform for equivalency. the content inside the presentation ect, if you want to take a look let me know. Lisa -----Original Message----- From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Gregg Vanderheiden Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 6:20 PM To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org Subject: RE: 4.1 Hi Jonathan, Interesting. Do you have some specific wording suggestions to consider? Gregg ------------------------------------ Gregg Vanderheiden Ph.D. Ind Engr - Biomed - Trace, Univ of Wis gv@trace.wisc.edu > -----Original Message----- > From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf > Of jonathan chetwynd > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 3:15 AM > To: Charles McCathieNevile > Cc: Chris O'Kennon; ''Lee Roberts ' '; ''w3c-wai-gl@w3.org ' ' > Subject: Re: 4.1 > > > Unfortunately I still feel that whilst we are in agreement on some > aspects of a verbal or textual exposition of what is required, very > little effort is being put into equivalence. Theatre, music, poetry and > oratory have a very ancient heritage, one the web is not finding easy to > emulate. > > When a piece of text produces a coherent audio output, that is > wonderful. however we are a long way from producing multi-media > equivalence, mechanically. Until that remote time, this means both > creating dramatic, pictorial, photographic and or symbolic > representations of complex concepts; and identifying where possible > generalizations that can be incorporated into guidelines*. > > It is essential that at this early stage we extract what is do-able. > There is no sense in defining this as the task though. > > However, it is also necessary to plot a route to the far more remote, > and this is what I feel has been avoided over the past 4 years. > Part of this plotting, requires dead-reckoning, being prepared to fail, > and attempting the apparently impossible, ie in the case of w3/wai a > graphical representation of some aspects of the guidelines. > Fortunately, if the ecmascript techniques document is developed, this > will almost certainly produce some graphical examples. > > It also seems to me that the whole of Guideline 4.-Comprehension leaves > far too much responsibility in the hands of authors. > Users are in a far better position to qualify acceptibility, and should > be involved in the process. if members of a family enjoy the online > family album, surely that is a better guide than the authors+w3 > guidelines. We only can try our best but users ultimately are our guide, > and this needs to be made explicit. > > thanks > > jonathan > > I do have to say that as usual, I have not spent as much time as I would > like actually studying the available reources at w3c/wai > > > *Merely stating that some people prefer one format is not that helpful. > --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.368 / Virus Database: 204 - Release Date: 5/29/02 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.368 / Virus Database: 204 - Release Date: 5/29/02
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