- From: Wendy A Chisholm <wendy@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 11:59:06 -0400
- To: "Jim Ley" <jim@e-media.co.uk>, "Matt May" <mcmay@yahoo.com>, <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
The main question I think we ought to be focusing on, and where I thought this thread started, was if client-side scripting techniques were accessible. We keep trying to figure out if we should assume that ecmascript be supported. Jim states that scripting is not safe and therefore questions if we should support it. It is my experience that client-side scripting is used quite often for security reasons. For example, when submitting personal data to a site, if you have to continue sending it back to the server for data verification, each time it is sent through the 'net is a possible security breach. therefore, many sites prefer to do the verification on the client-side to avoid possible security breaches as the info travels the 'net. Also, it decreases the response time and gives the user a better experience. Instead of waiting for data to be sent to the server, processed, and returned, using the client's machine for the verification decreases server load and increases response time. There are many good cases that e-commerce sites build for using scripting. As for the question if scripting has ever been used to make an inaccessible site accessible - yes it has. When I worked at the Trace R&D Center, Mark Novak created a javascript that would let the user navigate a table. This was before user agents or assistive technologies were able to navigate tables cell by cell, row by row, column by column. I have also seen a client-side script that creates a navigation window that hovers over a page creating large icons for people who do not move well. I don't see client-side scripting disappearing. Matter of fact, with SMIL, SVG, etc I only see its use increasing. I do not think it is useful to debate how to make it go away or how to completely avoid it - as I interpreted some of your message, Jim. Please correct me if I have misunderstood. Instead, let's try to answer the questions and debate the scenarios that Gregg posed in his original e-mail: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2001JulSep/1048.html 508 says you can use scripts, if functional text is provided - in other words if they are usable by a screen reader. Access Board's info: http://www.access-board.gov/sec508/guide/1194.22.htm#(l) I don't think this is an unreasonable request. More info: National Cancer Institute: http://oc.nci.nih.gov/web508/tut-l.html It's similar to saying, "use style sheets for HTML, but make sure the page is readable without them." --wendy -- wendy a chisholm world wide web consortium web accessibility initiative seattle, wa usa /--
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