- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 07:17:02 -0400 (EDT)
- To: Anne Pemberton <apembert@erols.com>
- cc: "Charles F. Munat" <chas@munat.com>, WAI GL <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
It was an example. PDF is a hybrid graphics format - it can contain text and graphics in the same encoding, unlike HTMl (more like SVG). In general it is a fairly efficient format, but there are some common tools out there that would make people think otherwise - a lot of the PDF that is transferred acrtoss the Web is measured in Megabytes - the same as badly designed graphics, while the best of it is comparable to HTML code - and only the very leanest graphics. PDF is a great format for tight visual rendering control, and is relatively web-aware (by comparison to its big print-oriented brother postscript for example, but less so than SVG). The point is that we need to consider this issue as we think about a multimedia web - there are ways of optimising content for download size as for many other requirements, and some sound technical thinking needs to go into this process to ensure that we are not creating more problems than we are solving. "graphics" is not necessarily a bandwidth hog, but lots of the graphics that is produced is - and some of that could be better produced to be lightweight, while some of it is just technically inferior encoding of information or poor use of available technology. Charles On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Anne Pemberton wrote: Chaals, Thanks for you input here.... hadn't thought of PDF in that light, but is a nuisance. I think it is used to keep documents similar across various media. It seems to be very popular in government offices - much of what we get from the state dept of ed these days is in PDF format .... Is PDF more of a bandwidth hog than graphics, or about the same? Anne At 08:27 PM 8/30/01 -0400, Charles McCathieNevile wrote: >Bandwidth is a problem for people. There are bandwidth-intesive ways to send >content (the overblown PDF that some tools generate is an example) that are >unnecessary, and that cause problems for people who live in areas where >infrastructure is poor. > >I am not sure that we should have a blanket checkpoint on this, anymore than >I think a blanket checkpoint saying "add multimedia" is good, although both >of these things are clearly good principles to keep in mind. > >Do we have anywhere a list of the things we think are good ideas? > >Chaals > >On Thu, 30 Aug 2001, Anne Pemberton wrote: > > Bandwidth-intensive content cannot deprive anyone of anything. It is the > receiving hardware that deprives. That is the point of saying "Include > Illustrations" .... if they aren't there, everyone loses no matter which > world they live in. Anne Pemberton apembert@erols.com http://www.erols.com/stevepem http://www.geocities.com/apembert45 -- Charles McCathieNevile http://www.w3.org/People/Charles phone: +61 409 134 136 W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI fax: +1 617 258 5999 Location: 21 Mitchell street FOOTSCRAY Vic 3011, Australia (or W3C INRIA, Route des Lucioles, BP 93, 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France)
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