- From: Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
- Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 00:01:49 -0500
- To: <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Nothing on this page works with my browser
Can you tell me what the non-text is that is on the page?
Gregg
(sorry for the irony)
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-----Original Message-----
From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of Charles McCathieNevile
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 3:19 AM
To: Joel Sanda
Cc: 'Anne Pemberton'; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Subject: RE: NEW DRAFT - 31 July 2001
Well, I have put a bit of sound and graphics online at
http://www.w3.org/2001/08/mmcmn that might be a start at how to actually
illustrate 3.4 in a manner that would meet 3.4.
That page isn't an attempt to use those things in situ - it is a home
for
them to be seen, that includes (rudimentary) text equivalents. Note that
I
have cut the image down to one sixth size and it worked for me, which I
thought was good for something that is 640x480 naturally.
Comments welcome, but be kind - I already know that I am not a graphic
designer <grin/> or communicator of any great talent.
Cheers
Charles
On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Joel Sanda wrote:
Anne -
The idea of content stabilization is a valid point, but what if
content
changes are frequent? Any content that changes will need to be
designed in
alternative formats.
Take the WCAG 2.0 document. Is there, since the content isn't stable
and
always changing, no way to build it so it can conform to the WCAG 2.0
until
it is stable? That means that, as a working document, it cannot be
accessible, at least according to the WCAG 2.0.
My concern is the way 3.4 is written now the group working on the WCAG
2.0
can't adhere to the point while the document is in a working draft.
What if
someone on the group had to have content in a form specified by 3.4,
but
can't get it because the content isn't stable?
Joel Sanda
Product Manager
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-----Original Message-----
From: Anne Pemberton [mailto:apembert@erols.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 3:27 PM
To: Wendy A Chisholm; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Subject: Re: NEW DRAFT - 31 July 2001
Wendy, Paul, and all,
I have absolutely no objections to anything in the newest
draft. I will try to read it through tomorrow and give you some help
on at
least one of the places you asked for help, and, if no one tells you
first,
there are a few typo/grammar errors that I spotted reading through it.
I am so grateful for Paul Bohman's version .... his
separating
these documents into usable segments helped me understand the
organization
of the document and it was easier to use this time than previous --
just
cause I've seen Paul's organization ... <grin> ...
Wendy, Joel Sanda asks about illustrating the illustration
content. Can you tell him where to see what I did last time we were
asked
to do that? We need to stabilize the text before we begin to build the
illustrations. Is your illustrator joining us?
I look forward to this draft passing the consensus so we
don't
have to hang a label over this one "under construction" ... with the
little
earthmover icon!....
Anne
At 01:45 PM 7/31/01 -0400, Wendy A Chisholm wrote:
>Hello,
>
>A new draft is available. The 26 July 2001 version did not have
updates
>to checkpoints 3.5, 3.6, 3.7, 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, 4.4. This draft updates
>those, as well as incorporates discussion on checkpoint 2.1 from the
26
>July 2001 telecon on the 26 July 2001 working draft.
>
>Again, I suggest people read the change log first:
>http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/change-history.html
>
>I have identified several issues again and highlighted major changes,
such
>as combining checkpoints.
>
>I included my proposed checkpoint 3.4 with some minor changes. I
look
>forward to responses on this. If it is too controversial, I will
revert
>back to the previous draft or suggest people provide proposals for
>something that is more acceptable. We are working to publish a
public
>working draft on 10 August 2001. We don't need to have consensus for
a
>working draft, but we also don't want to publish anything that
contains
>substantial errors or disagreement.
>
>If possible, we might just put a placeholder for checkpoint 3.4 that
says,
>"A checkpoint on providing illustrations will go here. The working
group
>does not have sufficient agreement to publish anything at this time."
>
>The draft itself is available at:
>http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/WD-WCAG20-20010731.html
>
>For the latest draft, always refer to:
>http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/
>
>This redirects to the current version.
>
>I look forward to your comments.
>--wendy
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>seattle, wa usa
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