- From: Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
- Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 00:48:18 -0500
- To: "'GLWAI Guidelines WG \(GL - WAI Guidelines WG\)'" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
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Sorry Anne, Not sure I understand. Are you saying that all text that is not a link needs to be represented in non-text form as well? And is that for all pages on all sites or just some pages or sites? (I know there area some sites that are set up for people of all cognitive levels. But are you saying all pages should have all text info in non-text form. ) Thanks Gregg -- ------------------------------ Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. Professor - Human Factors Dept of Ind. Engr. - U of Wis. Director - Trace R & D Center Gv@trace.wisc.edu < <mailto:Gv@trace.wisc.edu> mailto:Gv@trace.wisc.edu>, < <http://trace.wisc.edu/> http://trace.wisc.edu/> FAX 608/262-8848 For a list of our listserves send “lists” to listproc@trace.wisc.edu < <mailto:listproc@trace.wisc.edu> mailto:listproc@trace.wisc.edu> -----Original Message----- From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Anne Pemberton Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 4:13 PM To: gv@trace.wisc.edu; GLWAI Guidelines WG (GL - WAI Guidelines WG) Subject: Re: RE Checkpoint 3.4 again Greg, I'd suggest that text which is content is the text that needs equivalents. Text that is a link already has an equivalent at the end of the click ... text that is in a database or table may or may not need an equivalent, depending on whether it's content, or just an index ..... Text is a glossary, dictionary, or encyclopedia should have at least one equivalent ... Did you look at the Nasa site that Katie shared this morning? http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast23jul_1.htm?list438943 It is an example of a government site that tried to make their information to accessible at various levels, but didn't think it through. The 3/4 grade version is written so that some teachers in Kindergarten, First and Second grade may be able to use the material with their classes. Now if they click to the site, and click on 3-4 version, they get all text. The teacher is reading the text to the class from the screen. She has to jump back to the basic version to show the illustrations at the appropriate time. If she skips clicking back, or something doesn't work, the kids will be fidgeting while she reads and there's nothing to look at on the screen... So, we will probably skip that site, since it's not designed for use across all levels. The poor 3/4 graders deserve pictures on their version just like they are on the high school/college version, or better .... Anne At 11:30 AM 7/29/01 -0500, Gregg Vanderheiden wrote: Hi Anne, You wrote " Joe, all elements on a page need an equivalent, not just the non-text elements. Text is an element and it needs an equivalent, like all the other elements. 3.4 is the only place this is addressed, and it doesn't do the deed. " and " > No matter the arguments presented, text is an element on a page, no > more, and no less. It needs an equivalent. [...]" Are you saying that you think: 1) all text on a page needs a non-text equiv? Or 2) just some text on a page needs a non-text equiv? Gregg -- ------------------------------ Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. Professor - Human Factors Dept of Ind. Engr. - U of Wis. Director - Trace R & D Center Gv@trace.wisc.edu <mailto:Gv@trace.wisc.edu>, <http://trace.wisc.edu/> FAX 608/262-8848 For a list of our listserves send lists to listproc@trace.wisc.edu <mailto:listproc@trace.wisc.edu> Anne Pemberton apembert@erols.com http://www.erols.com/stevepem http://www. <http://www.geocities.com/apembert45> geocities.com/apembert45 <http://www.geocities.com/apembert45>
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