- From: Kynn Bartlett <kynn-edapta@idyllmtn.com>
- Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:32:06 +0100
- To: Marja-Riitta Koivunen <marja@w3.org>, w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
At 9:31 AM -0500 3/12/01, Marja-Riitta Koivunen wrote:
>I often use the definition below for images and their captions. I
>though it enhances accessibility and makes it easier to change
>styles.
I can see how it would help with styles. But I'm not sure exactly
how it would help with accessibility.
>So should we say something more explicit or is it that there are no
>accessibility benefits in doing this and I should stop?
No reason to stop, necessarily.
><div class="figure" id="Fig-1">
><p><img src="architecture.png"
>alt="Basic architecture showing the communication between the client
>and the annotation servers."></p>
>
><p class="caption">Figure 1: The basic architecture of Annotea.</p>
></div>
It's somewhat interesting but I'm not sure what you actually do with
the information you're encoding here. How you style and/or transform
this content would create the value here, not just the encoding of
meaning/intent. (Current browsers don't, to the best of my knowledge,
do anything useful with this.)
What you're trying to capture here would be expressed in (arbitrary)
XML as something like:
<figure id="Fig-1">
<image src="architecture.png">
Basic architecture showing the communication between the
client and the annotation servers.
</image>
<caption>
The basic architecture of Annotea.
</caption>
</figure>
...but then how you use that information will be very dependent upon
how you use it. ("Style and/or transform" in my paragraph above.)
(X)HTML unfortunately doesn't have a rich enough set of presentation to
express what we want, but there are several ways to render this which
might work -- such as using the <table> tag to group related content:
<table summary="Figure Fig-1: The basic architecture of Annotea."
class="figure">
<caption>
Figure 1: The basic architecture of Annotea.
</caption>
<tr>
<td>
<img src="architecture.png" alt="Basic architecture showing the
communication between the client and annotation servers."/>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
(The above can be generated from the XML using XSLT relatively easily.)
Or, as you've done in the original, you can use <div> for this kind of
thing. Or some other presentation depending on what you're trying to
accomplish.
Note that this example is by necessity limited; no longdesc is
given which fully explains the architecture, and the caption and
the alt attribute provide pretty much identical information -- a more
complete example would be something like:
<figure id="Fig-1">
<image src="architecture.png">
Basic architecture showing the communication between the
client and the annotation servers.
</image>
<caption>
The basic architecture of Annotea.
</caption>
<longdesc>
<p>
When a client requests an annotation from a blah blah blah
blah blah blah
</p>
<p>
...
and that's how it works.
</p>
</longdesc>
</figure>
Or possibly just:
<figure id="Fig-1">
<image src="architecture.png">
Basic architecture showing the communication between the
client and the annotation servers.
</image>
<caption>
The basic architecture of Annotea.
</caption>
<longdesc href="arch_desc#1.html"/>
</figure>
My basic comment is that you wouldn't want to write your _content_ in the
manner you describe -- you hopefully would want to write it in non-XHTML
XML -- but that the way you produced output markup from that content is
okay but not the only way to present that type of information. (Which
serves to illustrate a weakness with (X)HTML -- multiple ways of
presenting the same semantic mean that it is a poor language for encoding
semantics!)
--Kynn
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Kynn Bartlett <kynn@idyllmtn.com>
http://www.kynn.com/
Received on Monday, 12 March 2001 10:40:21 UTC