- From: William Loughborough <love26@gorge.net>
- Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 12:20:54 -0800
- To: Anne Pemberton <apembert@crosslink.net>, w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
- Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20001222120810.0294f190@mail.gorge.net>
At 01:50 PM 12/22/00 -0800, Anne Pemberton wrote: >miss whole areas of "accessibility" which aren't machine testable Hence my remark: "...being able to determine if a site will work for your circumstances." Being "testable" has nothing to do with whether the testing must be "automatable". I want to know if the author has asserted conformance to such things as "reading level appropriate to audience" and "use of multimedia to enhance presentations", etc. We are on the same train here. Inclusion of testability is a way to enable a teacher to determine if the site has a means to determine if it follows any particular guideline that's of interest to the potential user. The question is if this "meta-accessibility" is appropriately called for in the guidelines. Kynn is on the side of "it would be nice but wouldn't increase accessibility" and I'm on the side that "if you can't get at it to test (this includes subjective tests claimed to be made by the author), then it suffers in the accessibility department. In other words, in addition to having appropriate illustrations it must be able to allow you to find out that it claims (or has) such illustrations. It matters, even (or especially) for conforming sites to assert their conformance as well as provide a way to test the assertions thereto. The confusion engendered by the apparent elaborate insertions called for is that they will be a trivial exercise for the author - just a checkbox saying "I have included illustrations" or "this material has been determined to be useful for those reading at a first grade level" or whatever. The underlying machine-readable gobbledygook won't get your attention any more than the header associated with your email like your last one: ****************************************************************************** Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 13:55:04 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: apembert@apembert.pop.crosslink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 13:50:24 -0800 To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org From: Anne Pemberton <apembert@crosslink.net> Subject: RE: Checkpoint on testability Resent-From: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org X-Mailing-List: <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> archive/latest/5332 X-Loop: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org Sender: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org List-Id: <w3c-wai-gl.w3.org> List-Help: <http://www.w3.org/Mail/> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org?subject=unsubscribe> ****************************************************************************** You didn't have to write any of that but it's all there for machines to deal with and allow me to post this answer! -- Love. ACCESSIBILITY IS RIGHT - NOT PRIVILEGE
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