Re: local copies of WAI logo

I'm not a lawyer either but it seems to me that, unfortunately, we can't 
just refer to general W3C policy because the general policy at

http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/logo-usage-20000308


says that
quote
Some usages may differ from the generic W3C Trademark and Servicemark 
License. The policies are further described for these instances.
unquote

and further down, under the wai logos it says
quote
Please refer to the detailed instructions provided by W3C's Web 
Accessibility Initiative.
unquote

and clicking thereon brings us back to our page in WAI space which 
literally says to source the server image.  So strictly speaking, we gotta 
change our page.


Len

At 07:55 PM 12/20/00 +0000, Sean B. Palmer wrote:
>Sorry, I should have posted this a long time ago:-
>Important process-note: W3C products (which I'm sure includes logos) are
>legally available for use by the public uder certain conditions. For
>example, you are allowed to use the "W3C" logo in anything you like as long
>as it "accurately reflects the status associated with W3C products." Refer
>to: [1] As WCAG is a W3C product, and in recommendation, not only could
>people use the W3C logo to say that their page complies to WCAG (as long as
>it *does*), but they could also create their own logo incorporating the W3C
>logo *as long as* it accurately reflects the status associated with the W3C
>product. CAVEAT: Please remember that I am neither a W3C member, or a legal
>expert, so please verify for yourselves this statement. See [1] for full
>details.
>
>In other words, you don't need to issue a statement that people can use the
>WCAG logos locally, they are already allowed. Just cite the reference I
>gave [1].
>
>[1] "W3C Trademarks must only be used in a way that
>accurately reflects the STATUS
>associated with the W3C products."
>http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/trademark-license-19990516
>Please note that the document also says "No right to create modifications
>or derivatives of W3C Trademarks is granted pursuant to this license." That
>means that the trademarks themselves cannot be modified, but doesn't infer
>anything about their usage.
>
><personal_note>
>I know all of this because I modified the valid XHTML logo once by crossing
>out the X in protest that XHTML wasn't extensible at the time (or something
>like that). I was told that as it accurately reflects the status associated
>with W3C products I was allowed to use it! This is a good example that the
>W3C is not some overly stodgy group, and that even the W3C can have a bit
>of fun...
></personal_note>
>
>Kindest Regards,
>Sean B. Palmer
>"Perhaps, but let's not get bogged down in semantics."
>    - Homer J. Simpson, BABF07.

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