- From: William Loughborough <love26@gorge.net>
- Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 06:14:39 -0800
- To: <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
At 07:05 AM 11/29/00 -0800, Anne Pemberton wrote: >need for illustrations still isn't cemented in WCAG 1.0 "14.2 Supplement text with graphic or auditory presentations where they will facilitate comprehension of the page." WCAG 2.0 "3.7 Supplement text with graphic or auditory presentations where they will facilitate comprehension of the content." If the "cement" is too watery, then how should we change its composition? In 1.0 it's a priority 3 and we have yet to set priorities in 2.0 so perhaps what you seek is a higher priority? Requiring illustrations is *very* unlikely to find much support because there is so little evidence that there is an objective standard for designing/selecting/integrating them into what is *mostly* signified speech. I understand that "language" is neither speech nor its textual representation, but those presentations of language are pragmatically prevalent. The Bettman Archives are a major resource but "they ain't no library". Perhaps sign language and Bliss symbols or other ideographic forms will become more prevalent but neither are so much illustrative as communicative. It is commonplace to use words (which is often text) to represent pictures but the effective use of pictures is just not codified - at least nobody arguing for more graphics has pointed to any objectively testable resource that would permit checkable conformance of illustrative values. In my earliest experiences of pedagogy I, like most of my fellows, thought I wanted "picture books" but being sort of forced into the less intuitively comfortable world of "chapter books" has been very useful. Literacy is *not* over-rated. It's not elitism/snobbery/conceit that has made us put so much emphasis on text in our guidelines - it's the cumulative experience of humankind's move from ideograms to ideophones. Languages for deaf people are highly effective but they also require bi-linguality for assimilation/inclusion. It's sort of "too bad" that text essentially can only be a "graphical" representation of spoken language, but that's what we've got. I would be delighted if there were an *objective* way to make illustrations effective rather than just fashionable. The extremely arcane world of the RDF people uses graphs extensively and saves a lot of words and hand-waving thereby but it's more like math notation than what I think you've been meaning by "illustrations". To make the above cited checkpoints into priority 1s would be IMO catastrophic. If we are having trouble with "avoid" and "where possible", etc. just imagine the uproar over "where they will facilitate comprehension". One person's "facilitation" is another's "barrier". Gratuitous "illustrations" are an impediment for many people although we can pick our way around them. In summary until the tool box of authors includes a usable thesaurus/dictionary of illustrations I don't believe we can demand their use not so much because I personally don't *need* them but because it hasn't been convincingly demonstrated how to do it effectively. That's why comic books' "methods" are not the lingua franca of civilization, not because of ivory-tower-dwelling snobs who think of them as "low-class". -- Love. ACCESSIBILITY IS RIGHT - NOT PRIVILEGE
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