- From: William Loughborough <love26@gorge.net>
- Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 12:11:30 -0800
- To: "'WAI-GL'" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
At 02:29 PM 11/28/00 -0500, Leonard R. Kasday wrote:
>3.1 When an appropriate markup language exists
In addition to "for example" and "avoid" you have to consider what "exists"
means.
The dada POV which sort of says "nothing *means* anything" might be an
appropriate medium for recent exchanges but the letter/spirit/intent of the
checkpoint is reasonably clear. Actually I think this has been asked and
answered several times. There *exists* a means of doing this (other than
having a sighted person read it to you, which isn't really an "appropriate
markup language" although I'm beginning to wonder <g>) therefore the site
in question is in violation.
I don't think anyone doubts this very much. There is contention about
whether this is too strong in view of the problems that authors encounter
when they examine how their stuff looks in all the myriad of various levels
of CSS support + the requirement to consider older browsers, etc. But as
some lyric asks "What's Love Got to Do With It?" - even in the situation
you describe where there's some regulation requiring conformance it isn't
unheard of for them to ignore it or find a way around it ("undue burden"
comes to mind). In the U.S. the supposed "promise of Section 508" is
tempered by the fact that a very similar rule (same number) has been on the
books and completely ignored for about 15 years.
The use of image text is against the rules WCAG 1.0, the laws of the State
of Pennsylvania, and probably Oz and Canada and possibly Portugal.
One of the "needs" of the Web site designers who toil to make the presence
of your state "attractive" and "accessible" is that there's no LAW that
they have to conform to some standard of "branding" but there is one that
they have to conform to the guidelines. If they resist this on the basis
that they don't think it "looks good" then we, as Fascist dictators will
see to it that their artistic sensibilities are violated and they'll just
have to work around these archaic notions that prevent them from doing
their most attractive work.
It's not required by the state that the site has to look the same on every
conceivable platform, but that it "transform gracefully" - I just don't
understand where the aesthetics will get their wrists slapped? What is the
objection to making it work for more people.
--
Love.
ACCESSIBILITY IS RIGHT - NOT PRIVILEGE
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