- From: Anne Pemberton <apembert@crosslink.net>
- Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 19:49:32 -0800
- To: "jonathan chetwynd" <jc@signbrowser.org.uk>, "w3c" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
At 04:52 PM 11/2/00 -0000, jonathan chetwynd wrote: >Anne: >I cannot agree to the need to remove SVG. Jonathan, I was truly disappointed when I realized that accessible SVG isn't what it's going to be some day. Until SVG is a standard format in the major two browsers, it isn't much of a reality, and accessible SVG isn't even in "tool" form yet ... It's what us old-timers used to call "vaporware" ... I check out a site recommended to see SVG, but the graphics were all gifs and low resolution. Clicking on them spawned a new window (isn't that a no-no in accessibility?) The enlarged graphic wasn't the one in the small picture in all cases, and the bikini photo was full of white spots ... http://www.pinkjuice.com/SVG/ SVG has lots of promise, and I do hope that the upcoming accessibility features of FLASH come about ... I am not sure which will arrive first and become the actual BEST solution for both text-based accessibility, and accessibility that addresses the needs of the learning and cognitively disabled folks, plus young children. But, we're here to see and to make the best happen! Anne >What is needed is a well thought out and executed graphical demonstration of >the intended benefits. >as we are agreed the current example neither does justice to bitmaps, png or >svg. > >If text is needed to describe the benefits, it's nowhere near being a real >proposition. >One can describe colour blindness with words, but the tests for it are not >hidden in masses of text. >Gill sans says what it is, but the beauty, is in the beholding. > >What are the current 'tests' for SVG, and where are they published? please >note I am not referring to textual descriptions or algebraic formulae, but >graphical representations that john doe can evaluate. > >There is a disgraceful and persistent refusal to create graphic intensive >pages on the w3 site. >Can we be assured that when and if SVG is supported, graphics will appear on >the site? >(I have serious doubts, as png, jpg and gif are fairly universal, yet there >is extremely limited use.) >What popular concensus is there that states, that proprietary graphics >formats are neither universal nor accessible, and hence cannot be used? > > > >jonathan chetwynd > >some very wonderful examples of bitmaps are linked from >http://www.signbrowser.org.uk/alf/i.html > >jc@signbrowser.org.uk >IT teacher (learning difficulty) >& accessibility consultant > > > Anne L. Pemberton http://www.pen.k12.va.us/Pav/Academy1 http://www.erols.com/stevepem/Homeschooling apembert@crosslink.net Enabling Support Foundation http://www.enabling.org
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